Angelina Jolie's Deadbeat Dad Thinks I Was a Big Meanie to Sarah Palin
By Linda Kellen Biegel
Jon Voight, the actor who made the movie“Runaway Train” in the Great Land a quarter of a century ago, came back to make another one. It’s called “Ghost Vision” and it’s filming in Alaska now.
Don’t get me wrong…I am ecstatic about Alaska’s new place in the movie-making business! I have been a musician/stage worker in this town long before I was ever political and I can only offer a big THANK YOU to AK Senator Johnny Ellis and the AK Legislature for passing the “Alaska Film Incentive Program.” It’s wonderful to watch many of my part-time actor and music friends get some regular work!
Also, I have nothing against Jon Voight the actor. I’m actually a fan. I loved the movie “Conrack” as a kid. Heck, I’m a fan of a lot of the movies he’s been in. More recently, I especially loved him together with Helen Mirren playing fueding ex-marrieds in “National Treasure: Book of Secrets.” There is no question that he is talented.
Where Mr. Voight and I run afoul is reflected in the Q & A with the actor by Kyle Hopkins at the Anchorage Daily News. Voight discusses his past movie-making experience in Alaska, his career and other common entertainment topics. Then Voight does something that seems to take interviewer Hopkins by surprise…Voight focuses on politics. However, he does not wax poetic on national issues, but on Alaska politics and Sarah Palin (emphasis mine):
Q. What are your thoughts on Sarah Palin? Are you a fan?
A. I’m a big fan. I think she’s a remarkable person.
May I say this, to the Alaskan people. I think you should be very proud of her. She certainly represents the spirit of the Alaskan.
She certainly loves her Alaska. She loves it. But there’s something extraordinary in her. She’s very smart. And the attacks against her, even just based on the attacks against her, I would like her. Because all these mean-spirited people try to find something wrong with this very admirable person. It’s quite transparent that they’re just bad-intentioned folks trying to bring down this very nice gal.
(How funny that Mr. Voight thinks he knows that I had “mean-spirited intentions” when all of my comments on the subject, and my more recent activities, prove just the opposite.)
Q. Would you vote for her for president?
A. I sure would. I sure would vote for her if she was running for president.
… Some people have said that they were upset with her for leaving the governorship when she did. I disagree with those people. I think she saved Alaska with that move.
(Note: I agree that Palin quitting the governorship did save Alaska…or should I say “Alaskans”…in a sense, but definitely not in the way Mr. Voight means it.)
She had capable people who were going to take over … She was being attacked, she was being prevented from governing. And they knew it. That’s what they were intending to do.
They were going to bring her down. She had to answer all of these nonsense lawsuits and everybody who’s gone through one lawsuit knows the stress that puts on you. The time that it puts on you. The money it draws from you. She was being destroyed in her governance of the state and in her personal well being.
What she did was she took the target and moved it. She took it away from Alaska. Great. She did a great service there. And smart as hell.
Note the plethora of Palin talking points throughout that response.
I’m quite used to outsiders spewing ignorant crap about the events leading up to Palin’s resignation:
–They refer to all activity in the Alaska legal system as “lawsuits.”
–They don’t acknowledge that three of those ethics complaints (Troopergate, Travelgate and Legal Defense Fund) required settlements totalling hundreds of thousands of dollars out of Palin’s pocket.
–They don’t realize that the two “real” lawsuits were regarding her attempts to protect emails about State business from being subjected to records requests by using her private Yahoo accounts and her claims of “privilege” on emails that were CCed to her non-state-employee husband…issues that were clearly illegal in other states (and may be overturned by a higher court, if they ever get there).
Like Voight, they also understand nothing about Alaska’s system of checks and balances for public officials:
–Possibly nowhere else in this nation is a state so dependent upon complaints from members of the public to get ethics/financial disclosure questions answered and corruption exposed. This is true for the Executive Branch, the Legislative Branch and for campaign and financial disclosure questions through Alaska Public Offices Commission.
–Alaska has without question one of the most powerful (if not THE most powerful) Governor per our State Constitution. The Governor appoints (and fires) all state departments and many other officials, including the State Personnel Board…tasked with investigating and ruling-on all Executive Branch ethics complaints. Yes, that’s just a wee bit of a “conflict-of-interest.”
–Alaska is a relatively new state, so the ethics laws and disclosure rules and regs were largely untested in court. This allows a less-ethical person to push the boundaries, knowing that a complaint or lawsuit would be the only way to curtail the activity.
–Alaska has a “loser-pays” system in place for lawsuits, where the loser must pay a portion of the winner’s costs. An exception exists if the plaintiff can prove that the suit is in the “public interest.” (Palin’s lawyer, Thomas Van Flein, understood this. I wouldn’t be surprised if that helped encourage them to spread meme that not just the lawsuits, but also the complaints and records requests (FOIAs) were “personal attacks.” This was very untrue in most cases…it had to do with setting precedent under Alaska Law. Palin was setting one that most who understood the problem didn’t want to see perpetuated, which is why her Alaska detractors are from all political persuasions.)
Mr. Voight doesn’t need to take it from me…one of those “mean-spirited” folks. He should take it from other outsiders who specialize in ethics, such as the folks over on CityEthics.org. They not only understand the Alaska ethics complaints but also grasp that there is a specific personality type involved with those who can’t stop violating them.
Of course, I don’t expect that Mr. Voight will be at all interested in anything…I don’t know…reasonable. The Op-Ed he wrote for the Washington Times back in July of 2008 shows him to be a total nutbag:
We, as parents, are well aware of the importance of our teachers who teach and program our children. We also know how important it is for our children to play with good-thinking children growing up.
(It was discovered in 2007 that Jon Voight owed $180,000 in child support to the late mother of daughter Angelina Jolie, according to her mom’s estate. While Mr. Voight was focused on “teachers who program our children,” he failed to take responsibility for the health and welfare of his own kids while earning a millionaire actor’s salary.)
Sen. Barack Obama has grown up with the teaching of very angry, militant white and black people: the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan, William Ayers and Rev. Michael Pfleger. We cannot say we are not affected by teachers who are militant and angry. We know too well that we become like them, and Mr. Obama will run this country in their mindset.
The Democratic Party, in its quest for power, has managed a propaganda campaign with subliminal messages, creating a God-like figure in a man who falls short in every way. It seems to me that if Mr. Obama wins the presidential election, then Messrs. Farrakhan, Wright, Ayers and Pfleger will gain power for their need to demoralize this country and help create a socialist America.
While that’s bad enough, it gets worse…from an appearance on the Huckabee Show, where he claims that President Obama is “raping America”:
In another Washington Times Op-Ed from June 2010, Voight claims that President Obama has “promoted Antisemitism throughout the world.”
I guess our new “Alaskawood” status means we’ll have to be comfortable making money off of the right-wing nutjobs just as much as the whale-lovers. Unfortunately, one drawback of all of these movie stars coming up here, it might encourage Palin to stay in Alaska more often. Ugh…
This most likely has been actor…shows he knows nothing about Alaska..perhaps he should
only concentrate on acting and stay out of subjects where he shows plainly..he knows nothing
about. S,Palin is the total queen of mean…which is very plain in her own talks and words..the is
nothing but an opportunist maniulator much the same as Joe Miller. Mudflats does an excellent
journalistic job in all they do..they given their readers true facts on very important issues.
Palin and Miller are simply phony..perhaps this actor is then also.
Is Voight’s project getting any of the transferable tax credits offered for filming in Alaska?
Did TLC get any? Did Mrs Palin profit from the program?
“She certainly represents the spirit of the Alaskan.”
Yeah, that’s what I really like – a guy from outside dropping in and spending a short time in Alaska, then telling us about “the spirit of the Alaskan”. Nothing new about it. Jackasses both famous and unknown have been doing it for as long as I can remember – declaring themselves experts on Alaska and Alaskans after being here on vacation or temporary work. Voight’s just one more poser.
I don’t think Sarah Palin has a learning disability, I think she’s too lazy to take the time to speak properly and look up the facts. Also, she may be a little bit on the dim side.
Jon Voight is a good actor and I’ve liked him in just about everything he’s played in, but he’s a right-wing wacko. Plain and simple. The fact that he could speak in such a way about Sarah Palin is sad and funny at the same time.
Mrs. Todd Palin is not intellectual curious. Her sex appeal has opened doors for her.
Any public office she has held, when the job challenged her intellect, she hired someone
to do her work – or she quit the job. I think Mrs. Palin has a learning disability. Why did
she have to attend five different colleges? And does she hold a college degree? McCain
and his advisors did not investigate into her college background. The USA is a very
important country on the world stage. We can not afford to have an uneducated, stupid,
former beauty queen from the north woods as our President. She is suppermarket tabloid
material. Her sex appeal has sold well. We need brains in the White House – not a
McCain “sex” kitten.
amen.
I have always thought she has an undiagnosed learning disability.
” I think Mrs. Palin has a learning disability.”
Having a learning disability does not always make someone stupid, I know a lot of folks who DO have a learning disability, and many others who have little education, and none of them think like SP. They USE their common sense to figure things out. I not sure that SP even understands what common sense means, much less has any.
Linda and the rest of us should have “picked on” Palin harder then she wouldn’t be the sole force that defines Alaska to the rest of the world.
Agreed.
Voight bought the hype hook, line, and sinker. Too bad he didn’t bother to learn the truth before he spouted off and insulted Alaskans.
well, we now know that A.Jolie did not get her desire to reach out & advocate for devastated countrys & peoples from her dad.I guess any one who had a dad who thinks like jon voight does would be a little wacky,which lets face it Angelina is. Voight is not the only crazy voice out there.I just listened to Pat Buchanan on MSNBC state that he supports the idea that only people who own property should be allowed to vote (a newly introduced idea by some of the folks with the Tea Party movement)so I guess I really should not be surprised by Voight’s beliefs.Funny how people like Voight go on & on about what a victim palin is & how “smart” she was to resign,yet he obviously hates Obamma,who has consistently been the target of racism & hatred since he took office, & is at present being beaten to a pulp by the Left & the Right,yet he is not perceived as a victim.I also don’t see him quitting to make millions of dollars hawking lousy books & appearing on embarrassing tv shows.I don’t understand this country anymore.How did we get to this sorry state?I have a house in the lower 48 that has a neighborhood Assoc.that is presently threatening to bring action against me because I rented my house to 4 utility workers.I received an email from the Assoc.stating that it might as well be a “crack house” or a “flop house”,& they send me pictures of the trucks & utility vans the tenants park in my large driveway.These men are being persecuted,harrassed & accused of “bringing down the standards of the neighborhood” because they did nothing more than be “working class”.They drive trucks & vans & are ‘blue collar’ workers so it is automatically assumed that they are deviants & crack addicts.It has made me physically ill.My neighbors,for the most part,identify as “liberal democrats”.If this is what a liberal American looks like I want no part of America.My neighbors down south should see my yard in Alaska,it is filled with: an old Uhaul van,a subaru that was in a front end collision,stacks of long line gear,& a 25 yr.old mercedes bio/diesal wagon with an ‘Impeach Bush’ sticker on it.Whatever happened to “give us your tired & your poor”?…I am so glad I live in Alaska.
Indeed, what DID happen???????
Wow. Please tell me it’s really not “her” Alaska?
Well so far only idiots seem to like the queen so consider the source! If the people would take the time to research her they would be in for quite a surprise.
Could you imagine if she was a democrat? She would have been run out of town.
Oops, wrong thread. I will say though, that Jon Voight does not sound like a nice man. I have seen him in a few films and I did think he was good actor – but if his own daughter won’t talk to him, hmmm.
Plus, I don’t care to listen to his BS.
What I found the strangest thing about the clip I saw, was when she finally shot the caribou, Chucky got all excited, patted her on the back, and said “there you go baby, there you go.”
For some odd reason, I found that really disturbing.
You can almost forgive Chuck Norris and Victoria Jackson for their views. They’re clearly playing lifetime roles as Dumb and Dumber. I have, unfortunately, caught a few of those Jon Voight interviews/speeches. He appears to be auditioning for some upcoming movie in which he will play a paranoid, racist, conspiracy wacko. “Beck to the Future”?
Unfortunately, that scarf that has been dangling about his neck (for artistic effect!) for decades now has slowly choked off the oxygen to his once-functioning brain. So sad that so many aging men’s brains eventually drop down into their trousers.
Out of place I know….Just caught this on TLC show…yeah I’m being forced to watch by a republican with a point to make ?
” She carries her own weight, whether it’s hunting or fishing or politics. Anything Sarah Palin does, she does with all four feet, let me tell you that. ” — Chuck Heath
Anything Sarah Palin does, she does with all four feet, let me tell you that. ” — Chuck Heath
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Hmmm……………..I wonder how well his students did in anatomy (and for that matter, mathematics).
Well, grizzly sows (and mama marmosets) are quadrapeds. Just like Sarah!
i saw that! yep even Chucky knows his daughter has four feet. two of them in her mouth.
Good though painful to watch clip of her hunting…for those interested.
12/5/2010 – Palin shoots a caribou
It took the former governor of Alaska a few shots.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW0Xx4DXkYk
🙂
They kept showing that clip the other day and when it got to the point that it looked like she was going to kill something I had to look away. I just can’t watch beautiful animals getting killed. I know some like hunting and some do for food and that’s OK, but I will never be one who likes seeing that. What did astound me was that for someone who has continually bragged about being a hunter, she seemed like a novice. They were talking her through it and her reaction was really odd if she’s as experienced as she wants all the hunters out there to believe. Won’t they see through that or are they so blinded by her “other qualities”?
Yeah, no need to answer that one.
She did an excellent job channeling elmer fudd.
[palin-fudd-twang voice] – I’m a wed-hot sportsman after wild game. Heh-heh-heh-heh..[pulls rifle trigger] Well, what do you know? No more buwwets.
Caribou-Bugs: No more buwwets? Oh, yeah? Well, there’s other sport besides huntin’, ya know!
Awesome post! It should come with a *spew* alert!
good one Gens.
I’m obviously missing part of the story here. Or perhaps some kind of back story?
What makes Mudflats thinks he was talking about Mudflats, specifically? I read it as very general and non-specific. There have been hundreds and thousands express disapproval.
I’m not getting a sense that he was referring specifically to Mudflats.
This article was written by Linda Kellen Biegel (see the note at the right of the screen). Ms. Beigel was among the Alaskans who filed ethics complaints against Palin.
The only thing that is interesting about the ADN article is that anyone cares. If you put 100 plumbers or nurses or bus drivers or airline pilots in a room and interviewed each one, you’d probably find at least one or two with opinions as nutty as Voight’s and your discovery would not get you a lead article in the Anchorage Daily News. Voight has not demonstrated any particular knowledge about Alaska or insight into politics, so his rambling admiration of Palin is of about equal relevance as his shoe size.
Awk! I meant “made in Alaska!”
I am delighted that more and more films are being make in Alaska! I think this is good economic stimulus, and adds a bit of diversity to the state’s economy, which is always good. It also really does provide opportunities for your beautiful state’s many talented artists, actors, writers and musicians.
Jon Voight has bored me for years now, but I don’t need to boycott his films. If he’s in a good movie that’s filmed in Alaska, I’d probably go see it. I like the comment someone made about “the politics of hunger.” It’spainful and sad to see a person shifting the fallout from his own spiritual and emotional wounds outward onto the world, instead of engaging in some serious insight, work and healing.
There are a few actors out there who use their fame and fortune carefully and intelligently. It is sad to see the power to change wasted by someone with the profile of Jon Voight. It seems like a younger generation of successful entertainers is truly doing good work in the world. These older actors aligning with the Tea Party underscore the cultural and generational change which is occuring. Palin and the Tea Party are the last gasp of white racism, and soon they will be naturally gone.
Sean Penn is personally running a shelter in Haiti. Bard Pitt is designing and building green homes in NOLA while his wife works for kids through the UN. His wife, this idiot’s daughter, is a better person than he will ever be. She uses her fame for good.
these are the sort of actors i support. the Voights of this world i ignore. i don’t care how talented he is. he will never pay his bills or fill his belly with a dime of my money.
Contrast what he’s doing with George Clooney, working to help people in Darfur, creating charities and hosting fundraisers to raise money for natural and manmade disasters.
http://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/68-george-clooney
I often wonder if growing up with a father who was an old-time journalist had anything to do with his obvious enthusiasm for public service. The Kennedy family, love them or hate them, have also had a tradition of public service that’s been ingrained in them from childhood.
Miss Wasilla must hate that the Kennedy family started the Special Olympics because they CHOSE LIFE for a DS kid too, damn liberals, uber liberals really!!!
Not only did they choose life, but they actually thought about how to make that life better AFTER the child was born. In the process thay made life better for of millions of kids and adults with developmental disabilities all over the world. How dare they!!!
Of course, Queen Sarah has done even MORE for kids with DS like………
like……
ummm………..
Oh never mind!
PolarBear thanks for calming me down. that they will be gone naturally is a beautiful thing. that is why i don’t believe in life everlasting. except for myself, of course. (smiling and hugging PolarBear)
For those that say they have never heard of Jon Voight, which I kinda find amazing, go to this site.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000685/
In addition, if you were a Seifeld fan, there was several episodes, I believe, about George buying a car that he thought was owned by Jon Voight. Involved something about a pencil with teeth marks in it, I believe.
Just watch Deliverance. Voight teamed up with Burt Reynolds, Ronny Cox, and Ned Beatty for a little old fashion hillbilly fun. That’s why he’s so attracted to the Chillbillies.
Those episodes were hilarious. Seinfeld really poked fun at the whole hero worship thing, made the idea look ridiculous.
I have never heard of this guy. But he sounds like someone I don’t care to know.
If he is defending Quittypants, that tells me what is really on his sick mind.
“Midnight Cowboy” – Dustin Hoffman was really good, Jon Voight, meh, passable. I guess they were both nominated for Best Actor that year, though I don’t remember Voight being that impressive.
Passable is the way I see him as an actor. I’m always aware that he is acting, unlike some who seem to become their characters.
Politically, he has been off the deep end for a number of years. I’d just forgotten it because I don’t pay much attention to what actors have to say, even when I agree with them. They have a louder voice than the rest of us but really have no more credibility.
Sarah is not particularly smart or intelligent. She is extremely lacking in any sort of education or intelligence necessary to talk on most subjects, but she doesn’t find it necessary. She thinks she is intelligent because she has had great instincts about what many people want to hear. Simplification of their lives, and desperate to regain control and the ability to understand a complicated world. I don’t think she is conscious of this instinct, but she and her followers mistake it for intelligence. So she finds that she doesn’t have to learn details, which drove the McCain team, and her support people as governor, nuts. She just hones her talking points, gets her positive feedback and goes to the next speaking engagement or twitter comment. She rigidly controls all aspects of her public involvement. This is the one learned response she has that came from trial and error. As a result of where we are right now as a country and her instincts, she has become a force that in the past never would have happened in this country.
I have been watching her for a long time, I’ve known her and her family personnally since the mid 90’s. What I find lacking in any published comment of hers since I’ve known her is that she never offers a positive solution to anything. She can’t, that would take intelligence and knowledge, not instinct. I think that would be a great challenge for anyone that thinks she is a potential leader of our country. What has she offered as a positive solution to any problem she has addressed?
I remember watching a Palin news conference when she was Governor. Every time a reporter asked her a question, she deferred to one of her commissioners. She was unable to answer any of the question on her own.
The difference between her and a bag of hammers? The hammers have a useful purpose.
And, then she stopped giving press conferences because the press got on her about not being able to answer the questions. She was an idiot then and most certainly is now!
My grandson was part of a youth delegation to speak with the Governor on environmental issues. Palin sent one of her commissioners.
Well, the Governor can’t handle every little detail. She had more important things to do. One day she was seen shopping at Nordstrom’s during “working hours.” It’s all about priorities, right?
Jon Voight is a great actor (did you see him in September Dawn? with Terence Stamp as Brigham Young?), but his politics are from hunger. Not uncommon. Vincent Gallo can act, too, but he’s a right winger and a director of terrible films.
Glad to see he’s returned to AK to make another film, but he’s demonstrated his inability to think without a script.
I seem to recall another actor who got scripted and ended up in the White House. He learned his lines well over about 6 years of coaching between the Goldwater speeches and his eventual run. He also convinced the people of CA to make him a Governor with his scripted lines. While Scarah has a stable of script writers she doesn’t seem to be to good at learning the lines without scrambling the words.
Acting, writing and directing involve Empathy and that often makes them liberals or they had the ability to empathize and that is why they chose the arts.
Well,hell’s bells. That was sorta insightful,wasn’t it? Not a lot of substance and one possible storyline for the next round of Peta ads. Mr Voight is sorta talented . I liked when he was ,as a Viet Nam Vet,paralyzed from the waist down, able to do the mattress mambo with Jane Fonda’s character. As a political speaker is where he and I divurge. He has every right known to most men to think and say what he wants,when and where he wants. I,as an American in fairly good standing, have the right not to look at,speak to or listen to him. As far as Peta goes, there was something to the effect that bad intentioned people are trying to bring down this very nice: moose?
caribou?
from the movie Coming Home. whale?
bear?
wolf? Please pick one.
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I find it so interesting that people who support Palin do so because she’s a ‘nice gal’ or because she’s ‘spunky’ and makes people on the left seethe in anger (supposedly). They complain because people are being mean to her and picking on her for no reason other than to take her down and hurt her. However, they never offer any evidence that she hasn’t done those things she was accused of other than her word. They believe that she was an extraordinary mayor and governor just because she says she was.
They also claim that people on the left place President Obama on a pedestal and perceive him as a Messiah, admiring him for no reason. The truth is that there are many concrete reasons for respecting the President and I don’t know of ANY liberals, progressives or left-of-centers who don’t acknowledge that he has his faults like anyone else. On the other hand, there is OVERWHELMING concrete evidence that Palin is a divisive, incompetent, vindictive, hateful, self-absorbed, uneducated, greedy, delusional liar who has no business running for any political office or other position of power.
But, of course, we’re just being mean because we’re jealous.
Leenie – you’re queen of the adjectives! Great job.
Thank you (blushing modestly)!
I usually give my thesaurus a workout when I comment here, but I don’t even need to open it when describing The Palin. Sometimes it’s just toooo easy! 😉
But he overlooked the primary reason Palin quit as governor: she wanted to get RICH. And indeed she did. Being President would be a HUGE cut in pay for Palin. She got everything she wanted, fame and fortune!
I really do get disgusted by that woman.
(((Muppet)))) There you are!!! glad to see you. was thinking of you.
ah, shucks…nice to see you too bubbles!
Well, if we judge people but what they do, I found him wanting in a lot of good qualities a long time ago.
This is just the cherry on the sh*t cupcake.
Heh-heh-heh. Sarah Palin, pin-up girl for multi-millionaire deadbeat dad. She so deserves his proclamations of support.
. . .and neither one of them could run a blog as wonderful as this one, AKM.
I like Jon Voight’s movies well enough but he never struck me as the sharpest tack in the box. His daughter the same; lovely to look at, a very good actress, and really, that’s enough. They don’t have to be Rhodes Scholars–and, they’re not.
How people can call sarah palin smart, after looking at that Journalism/Communications major flub those interviews is beyond me.
She is “smart” because she gets others to do her dirty work. But, my God, look at her record. She was a terrible Mayor, she almost had a recall. Wasilla was left 20-25 million in debt after she left.
She broke a sacred trust with the people of Alaska by stepping down as Governor.
Please tell me Mr. Voight, if Alaska got too hot for her, what does he think she would do if she became POTUS?
She is the wrong woman for the job. She wants the power, but she has CLEARLY demonstrated she does not want to govern, ever.
They still have an uphill battle in addressing Sarah’s resignation, spinning it to appear self-sacrificing in the face of fiscal concerns, costing the state time and resources. Again, using the State’s press office to label checks and balance efforts as ‘frivilous’ in itself warrants a compliant, a high level career staffer calling for a backlash against citizens is even more grievous, but I digress. . .
Many high level pundits, television personalities have adopted this spin of quitting as genious, cunning and/or strategic. They have to push this maneuver in order to help Sarah clear such hurdles on her flimsy record should she hit the campaign trail and thereby subject herself to unscripted press.
I agree. She quit because she couldn’t handle the position and she saw an opening to make money.
There was a strategy, but it not what the old boys are spinning.
He has to act..He doesn’t have an original thought. Sounds like SP scripted him. He mimics her whine (poor little brave Alasken girl picked on by everyone). Geesh, how dumb can you be!
OMG…what a self important hypocrite…the wealthy folks I know (my father-in-law is a billionaire) were merely better & more clever thieves than most (or their predecessors were). He tries to make being a capitalist on par w/ being a saint. Eat s*** Jon Voight…I will never patronize or view any thing connected to you again (except for Angelina, who obviously really knows what you’re like)
I don’t have an issue with people being wealthy, I have an issue with pouring our tax dollars into places that can’t help out people with less cash. If we take away all of the entitlements in the USA, we will never solve the poverty problems that we have. I think it will only make it bigger. We can’t un-do 200 plus years. The tax cuts have only proved that game is too rigged to really help out those that are less fortunate (which is essentially most of the people that pay taxes and otherwise).
I can see hypocisy through Sarah Palin’s fence.
What is he talking about, “mean spirited people.” He sure opened his welcome mat out for the President of the United States. He loves the woman because he thinks like her. I personally think he is a great actor, but his narrow-sided view here to look at the big picture is laughable.
People probably dislike Palin for the same reasons they dislike the President. Thank heavens people think differently. Some of us don’t really dislike Palin we just think she has a severe case of open mouth forget to insert foot. I am not sure if she cares if she insults people to get ahead, that is what bugs me the most. What is going to happen when she disagrees with Mr. Voight? Will he still believe that everyone got it wrong? Get ready to be disappointed Mr. Voight, every pedestal has a small crack that can grow!
Good thing I can spell, “hypocrisy.” I am just creating new words.
“She certainly loves her Alaska. She loves it. But there’s something extraordinary in her. She’s very smart. And the attacks against her, even just based on the attacks against her, I would like her. Because all these mean-spirited people try to find something wrong with this very admirable person. It’s quite transparent that they’re just bad-intentioned folks trying to bring down this very nice gal.”
Hmm. . .
Some circular thinking here. round and round and round
I like her, those mean people are mean to her, she says so, so I like her so they are mean people.
I believe $Palin has a large degree of political savvy, but I don’t believe she is very intelligent; if she is intelligent, she doesn’t apply herself well. If she were to use her political savvy in an intelligent way, she might have potential as a force for good. However, I think she doesn’t apply herself well, or choose well, or produce good works. You know the rest. Fact is, if $he looked like Susan Boyle, Jon Voight wouldn’t give her the time of day. We all know it.
yep Bretta. that is so true.
Can I clear this up?? Jon Voight was not and never was a “dead beat” dad. What Jon owed was NOT child support, but spousal support. He owed Marceline Bertrand, that money, even though she was living with, but not married to Billy Day before the divorce was final to Jon Voight. She lived with Billy Day from 1980 – 1992. When they broke up, she then moved in with a man called John Trudell. She put that in her will as a means to once again, have the last word on that divorce. She never got over it, even though she was partly at fault, because she too, was cheating in the marriage.
I don’t like Jon Voight at all, never did….however this misconception that Voight was a dead beat dad, was put out by his ex-wife..and then James Haven..because their mother poisoned their minds for years against their father. There are many, many pictures of a younger Jolie, James Haven and their father. He did support his children, not only monetarily but emotionally as well, when HE was allowed to do so.
But even so, we all know that between these two parents is why they have screwed up kids…Jolie and James Haven, both have psychological scars, that have carried over into their adult hood. He is a nutjob. She was a nutjob.
You appear to have the inside scoop on the Voight/Jolie story. What is your source or do you know the family personally? I have no respect for jon voight what so ever as I have heard him spewing the same irrational h8 towards the president as palin does on a daily basis.
Wasilla? Wasilla? This river don’t go to Wasilla boy. You done took a wrong turn.
I think’s it’s similar to the Stockholm syndrome. After being traumatized by hillbillies, he is now inexplicably drawn to them.
LOL
That’s priceless…thank you…!
$P ought to watch her comments about Elitist Hollywood! She’s got a clan there.
Sarah Palin makes money for people. The scary part of it is that they just might decide to elect her.
A great actor but a dangerous man politically!
Is there a single person in the universe who cares what this crack-pot thinks? Honestly, this guy has been flying his freakazoid flag for years & years & years.
I’m no fan of Jolie, but if she had to cut off contact w/this guy years ago, as odd as she was, there must have been a very good reason!
There are some people in this world that are so vile & conspicuously unintelligent that if you are criticized by them it could only be A) ignored, or B) taken as a compliment. It’s safe to say that he is one of those people. The quitter is another. Newt/Rush/Beck f*&^k-head trifecta is another. Long list. Voight is on it. Ergo, why discuss?
well said
yaaaayy TXSMR!!!!!
i haven’t watched any film the miserable man has been in in years. he is just a nasty piece of work.
Joli’s need to adopt small Black children must really make him angry. i hope that making him an ersatz grandpa to these vulnerable little ones is not the only reason she has for taking them away from Africa. he was with her and her family in Italy last summer. i hope the children were protected from his malign presence. i am always a bit skeptical when movie stars and the super wealthy scoop up poverty stricken children and take them home like pets. the problem is these little cuties don’t stay little or cute as the years pass. they are not Tribbles who hum and make you feel good when you rub them; at least not when they grow up.
You are absolutely right…!
I wonder what Mrs. Palin would say about this Hollywood Elite giving her praise. Hmm?
Oh – of course she’d love it. You see, you’re not an elite blueblood if you agree with her.
Kind of would he the height of hypocrisy wouldn’t it,for her I mean as he is a dead beat dad and that’s what they tried to call Levi
She’d probably dig out her padded bra and invite him to dinner on the concrete slab.
We all know damn-well that Voight’s just earned an invitation to dine on moose or caribou stew at the Palin studio – and dinner with the Governor also too.
It’s to have a pushback person for Governor Ventura. Someone who actually finished his term. And shows $owah to be a nutjob.
Ventura?
I was channel surfing over the weekend and watched a few minutes of ‘the Chinese or somebody, (they?) are poisoning our water with radiation which will sterilize all American males so they can take the good water to China in huge floating balloons pulled by a tugboat’
Here
http://geraldcelentechannel.blogspot.com/2010/12/conspiracy-theory-with-jesse-ventura.html
and also too here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz1p1BKy8sY
I, too, believe in judging the art, not the artist. In Palin’s case they happen to be one in the same.
I put the following on my facebook page: Sen Bernie Sanders Amazing Speech!
http://www.youtube.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5OtB298fHY
and AK Muckracker liked it, thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and after listening to Jon Voight’s tape I think Sen. Bernie Sander has a better understanding about things than Mr. Voight will ever have.
Fantastic speech!
I wish every state in the Union had a Bernie Sanders in Congress.
Sanders for President! He tells it like it is.
I posted it on yesterday’s OT; glad to see it here.
Well, Linda, it’s said that we are defined as much by the character of our enemies as the character of our friends. I’d say Jon Voight’s character (or lack thereof) speaks very well of you.
Any man who makes the kind of money he made and did not fulfill his child support obligations is a man whose moral compass is out of whack. It doesn’t surprise me one bit that he would admire a woman (Sarah) who doesn’t seem to care for her children. Both of them are too full of themselves to be able to truly care for their kids.
As for his attacks on President Obama, that seems in line with the hypocritical way in which Jon has lived his own life. As a non-Christian, I have to rely upon what I’ve read and been told, so please excuse me if I have this wrong: I thought Christians were not to judge others if they were to follow the faith of Christ with a humble servant’s heart. If so, both Voight and Huckabee are way, way off that path.
You are correct. Jesus’ message was tolerance and love. I tried to point this out to a friend on Facebook the other day when he posted a message that said essentially to anyone that was offended by the greeting “Merry Christmas” he wishes them a shi–y Christmas. I told him that for someone who purports to be a Christian that was mighty uncharitable. Well, it turns out that it was a “joke” and I should have a better sense of humor and I am the bad guy and I need to lighten up and grow a thicker skin simply because I am sensitive to the fact that there are many holidays celebrated this month and that if I’m not sure of a person’s religious beliefs I wish them a Happy Holiday instead of a Merry Christmas. So, to you KS Sunflower, I wish a Happy Holiday season.
Please accept my wishes for a very Merry Christmas, tinydancer. Thank you.
Thank you! Oh, and Happy New Year, also too!
never heard of him
lol-now that tickled me ol’ funny bones!
When children are estranged from their parents—as Angelina Jolie was for many years, and maybe still is—there is ALWAYS A REASON.
More people should think about that.
Absolutely, because it goes against a very hard-wired pattern in nature.
True. Even abused kids want the love of their parents, so when it totally goes south, there is a reason.
But sometimes the reason is in the kid, not a parent.
My spouse has 7 siblings. All of them got along with his parents except one brother who accused them of all kinds of things that were so obviously not true to anyone acquainted with the family when they were growing up. There’s something screwy in his head.
But I would say that’s not the case here. I think the blame can be put squarely on the father’s doorstep.
Wow! Does he wanna get inside $arah’s big girl panties or what? Tawd should put that fence back up and run it all the way around the property to keep fertile myrtle at home, or else Piper will be raising JON Voight’s kid.
isn’t THAT the only reason that these white ‘dirty old men’ like her in the first place?!?
I have thought that all along…I was talking about her to a male friend and as smart as he is and a Democrat, he really liked her in the beginning.
Where most women can see right through the winking and flirting and get to the real black heart, men only see…well, we know what they see.
What all men see: T & A…!
IM Gryph called one of them a “Palin Panty Sniffer” – that makes the most sense to me. PPS. LOL.
Ewwwwwwww…!
Thanks AKM that would be me. LOL I knew I should have copied that. Well as I was saying. Voight sitting next to a man who claims to be a “Man of God” who wants the guy from Wiki Leaks executed lost credibility a long time ago, they both have. People who are militants themselves calling others militant is rich. They go to church and watch TV listening to Evangelicals preach hate towards their fellowman, ignoring the teachings of Jesus Christ who they claim to love and follow. I’d take 20 Barack Obama’s any day then give these cretins a moment of my time.
Well said.
Very well said
Thank you….I agree..
It’s ok AKM i wont go on about it.
Well, that does it for me. I am not going to put another dollar that deadbeat’s pocket, I don’t care how talented he is as an actor. He should have been locked up for criminal non-support. I can forgive someone being a big-mouth right-wing nut-job. I cannot forgive non-payment of child support. There is no excuse for that.
I’m with you fishingmama. Politics is one thing. Failure to support a child is something else. Everyone has the right to believe as they wish. There could be, and have been, circumstances in which a father is leery of paying the money to the mother, and in that case, I believe a guardian is appointed to handle that money in some states. But, I could not find evidence of that. My research was quick, though.
He’s not that talented. He’s been embarrassing himself for about 20 years. Even moreso off the screen. Linda, you ill-intentioned H8r of the highest calibur (and I mean that as a compliment, not the way Sarah means it) you give John too much props. That Cage movie was BAD! With Voight worse.
At least Angelina turned out well enough in spite of her whacko-absentee father. Her UN work makes her more qualified to run as VP than our cussin-fussin-chirpy-huntin-tweeting-FBpostin-tourin-fightin-runnin-reloadin-reloadin-reloadin and reloadin quitting half-term Governor.
I have a feeling she is going to regret that phrase. At least I hope so! 🙂
I agree 100 percent. Except I never thought he was a good actor.
Now he’s even worse – deadbeat and a big-mouth know-nothing two-bit hack. Reedickulous.
I never had much regard for the intellignce of actors, and Voight just reinforces that belief. I too have experienced not recieving child support as a single father raising two young daughters. It’s especially agonizing when people like Voight, who can afford to pay, don’t because of their anger toward the custodial parent. I can’t help to think, and I’m sure I could be totally wrong, but people like Voight and Sarah, who never has any facts to base their condemnation of Obama, may only be doing this out of prejudice. Both Sarah and Voight are quick to condemn Obama no matter what he does, but also never give any alternative solution to back their condemnation. With Sarah’s vindictiveness, her problem could also be in losing the Presidency/VP race to a black man. I know this has been kick around more than I like to hear, but it is the only answer that makes any sense to me, as well as for the actions of other conservative politicians such as McConnell, and for the conservative TV and radio commentators, especially on FOX News. Is Murdoch also a racist? Sorry, I brought this up and I hope you’ll forgive me for doing so.
I think Murdoch is a racist..
Oops. Was tweaking the post and lost Linda’s first comment… Doh! Please repost, whoever you were. 🙂
I thought I was just too tired and hit a wrong button! Thanks!