Open Thread – No Pebble Mine
This picture is good for the heart in so many ways. For more information on the proposed Pebble Mine project, go to savebristolbay.org
Photo of fresh Bristol Bay King Salmon by Jon Corbett
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This picture is good for the heart in so many ways. For more information on the proposed Pebble Mine project, go to savebristolbay.org
Photo of fresh Bristol Bay King Salmon by Jon Corbett
Benlomond2
Alright, I will email an outline to AKM and ask her to forward it on to you and anyone else who asks for it. I don’t think it would be a great idea to publish it on the blog because although it is not that “stealthy”, it is generally claimed that the less your opponent knows the better.
Cheers,
Simple mind @ 10,
You hit the nail on the head. The fact is we live in a capitalist system and so long as that is true there is no way in the world that this mine will be stopped, there is too much money to be made. We are talking about more than half a trillion dollars. So the only logical thing we can do is whittle that profit down incrementally by insisting on the operators responsibilities. The biggest single issue and the biggest single threat is the tailings impoundment plan which is utter sky fairy type stuff. It will work for the life of the mine, but what about the centuries afterwards? Not a chance it will survive. Will it ruin Bristol Bay, maybe, maybe not, we probably will never be able to say for certain that it will or will not, but we can say for certain that the risk that it will is too high.
I think I have thought of a way to attack the push to go forward with Pebble in a way that will give them pause. Anyone here want to hear it?
on behalf of all concerned, please share your idea…
Hopeful news:
http://www.mediaite.com/online/no-joke-sarah-palin-reportedly-quits-one-nation-bus-tour-halfway-through/
She never qute seems to get much past that halfway mark, does she? Once a quitter, I guess…
Happy solstice to all. I love the sun, I love the earth, and I love her critters. There are a few I could live without (bedbugs and RWNJs, for example), but this planet is lovely, and I’m glad it’s my home.
“Dem lawmaker questions Pentagon’s millions spent sponsoring sporting events”
snip “The House recently “voted to eliminate funding for homeless veterans, slash community health centers serving low-income families and pass a fiscal year 2011 budget that would force 800,000 Americans to lose their jobs,” McCollum said recently. “Yet taxpayer-funded sponsorship of NASCAR racing teams was protected. I find this absurd.”” snip
“The Army spent $7.4 million on a single NASCAR team sponsorship in 2010, according to Pentagon data provided by McCollum’s office. That same team deal cost the Pentagon $11.6 million the previous year.
“The National Guard spent $20 million in 2010 for its sponsorship of Dale Earnhardt Jr.’s No. 88 car and Jeff Gordon’s No. 24 car. The previous year, that contract was for $32.7 million.” snip
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/06/21/987311/-Dem-lawmaker-questions-Pentagons-millions-spent-sponsoring-sporting%C2%A0events?via=blog_1
This is the best I’ve seen in a long time! Short and simple!
Check this video out — The Truth About the Economy;
http://t.co/pCe0hry
Block the mine, and set the area aside as a refuge or preferably a national monument, so that the area is never mined. theres too much at stake for a resource that will be gone in 50 years and the area will be left with a huge toxic lake behind a 700 foot high dam of earth in a tectonic zone that has produced a 9.3 earthquake in the past 50 years. my mantra is “keep it as it is” its an inheritently conservative position. keep it in its current state.
Do you know off hand,the per capita murder rate capital of the United States at 60 homicides/100,000 people(US avg. is 5.2/100,000)? Two clues-one it is not in the 48 contiguous states,nor the other two states,and two-if you knew me personally,it would be a dead give away. Okay and three the US and Britain share-in a manner of speaking.
Canada? Don’t the US and Britain share that? I’m sure I saw a revised article in Wikipedia about that.
Nice try. Try US Virgin Island territories. They named one St. mike from iowa.
Let’s try this one for the RECORD-OOPS. A certain men’s magazine that is only bought for the articles,has a cover-shot introducing the new Mrs. Hugh H*&^%r,only problem is she refused to tie the knot a week or so ago and so Mr Hugh You know who is not married at the present time. You need to know this for some obscure reason I have already forgotten. Happy Summer Solstice and someone needs to make the rain go away.
This one got through.Yippee!!!
The continuing saga of a delusional 80-year-old man’s consternation when he realizes that a beautiful 20-year-old does not want to marry him.
How were the articles?
I don’t know… I only look at the cartoons…… 🙂
There was a real good one on how the Mob took control of Hollywood by taking over the unions,back in the dirty thirties.
petition: “It’s time for Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas to resign.”
http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/resign_clarence_thomas/
Thanks for the link, Scout. I not only signed the petition, I wrote a comment and am encouraging others to sign the petition as well.
There’s a line in a song by the Steeldrivers that fits Pebble exactly. “Rich man rolls the dice. Poor boy pays the price.” If Pebble works, the shareholders at Anglo American win. The champagne at their London headquarters will flow. Their executives will get another meaningless zillion dollar bonus to add to their already obscenely bloated salaries. If Pebble leaks, which history tells us is more likely than not, the working families of Bristol Bay will lose their life’s work and livelihood. Like Appalachia before them, they’ll just have to be poor. The Anglo American shareholders might miss a dividend payment until their new mine in South America comes in. Anglo American will not pay to clean up the mess, and they won’t pay the welfare payments needed by the newly and chronically unemployed ex-fishers. That will by your job as an American taxpayer, unless, of course, the Republicans come to power. In that case, the working people can just starve. After all, that’s the capital system. When the executives and shareholders at Anglo American really share the reward AND the risk with the people of Bristol Bay, then we can start talking about Pebble.
Happy Summer Solstice Mudpups!! Hope everyone enjoys the daylight. Tomorrow we’ll start losing it 😉
Thanx for the reminder, Ann! Maybe we’ll drive up to the summit and watch the sun!
Ann, I have been losing it for a long time now . . .
Sorry Slip, can’t resist ! 🙂
” A mind is a terrible thing to waste”…….ben runs for the boat…! 🙂
Slip…
ummm I might be mistaken but I think most of us already knew that. Glad you can admit it tho!! 😉 😛
Tee hee (runs to join ben on his boat)
Hey! Serving margaritas on that boat?
YUP !! AND tequilla sunrises !! with those little nacho chips that have refried beans and guacamole on them …. mexican cruises are SOOOooo much FUN !!! Hope the Alaskan one is as enjoyable !!! Wife counting down the days…. so am I !!
Oooohhh! Colorful drinks with little umbrellas?
not much of a drinker here so I vote for mocha freezes with extra chocolate 😉
and spinach/artichoke dip yum yum!!
Slip just like the umbrellas in the drink glasses… 🙂
tee hee my big girl calls them… ummm bee bahs
pray tell Slip what’s up with needing the umbrellas? Are they to take cover from a potential poo storm? LOL
Wot, us worry?
http://bobcesca.com/blog-archives/2011/06/mass-extinction-in-the-oceans.html
Check out the map:
http://gothamist.com/2011/06/06/where_have_all_the_fishes_gone.php
Politicus Pulse found a good one:
http://sturdyblog.wordpress.com/2011/06/18/democracy-vs-mythology-the-battle-in-syntagma-square/
“I know it is impossible to share in a single post the history, geography and mentality which has brought this most beautiful corner of our Continent to its knees and has turned one of the oldest civilisations in the world from a source of inspiration to the punchline of cheap jokes. I know it is impossible to impart the sense of increasing despair and helplessness that underlies every conversation I have had with friends and family over the last few months. But it is vital that I try, because the dehumanisation and demonisation of my people appears to be in full swing.
“What is going on in Athens at the moment is resistance against an invasion; an invasion as brutal as that against Poland in 1939. The invading army wears suits instead of uniforms and holds laptops instead of guns, but make no mistake – the attack on our sovereignty is as violent and thorough. Private wealth interests are dictating policy to a sovereign nation, which is expressly and directly against its national interest. Ignore it at your peril. Say to yourselves, if you wish, that perhaps it will stop there. That perhaps the bailiffs will not go after the Portugal and Ireland next. And then Spain and the UK. But it is already beginning to happen. This is why you cannot afford to ignore these events.
“My mother, who is nearly 70, who worked all her life for the Archaeology Department of the Ministry of Culture, who paid tax, national insurance and pension contributions for over 45 years, deducted at the source (as they are for the vast majority of decent hard-working people – it is the rich that can evade), has had her pension cut to less than £400 a month. She faces the same rampantly inflationary energy and food prices as the rest of Europe.
A good friend’s grandad, Panagiotis K., fought a war 70 years ago – on the same side as the rest of Western democracy. He returned and worked 50 years in a shipyard, paid his taxes, built his pension. At the age of 87 he has had to move back to his village so he can work his “pervoli” – a small arable garden – planting vegetables and keeping four chickens. So that he and his 83 year old wife might have something to eat.”
So this is what the Kochs and Wall Street are planning for us?
Here’s a review of Palin’s propaganda movie that I think you’ll enjoy:
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/connelly/article/Connelly-The-Undefeated-Palin-without-warts-1432199.php#page-1
“This will hit audiences like a nuclear bomb.”
It’ll bomb, all right.
( I love the last paragraph, where the reviewer thinks that Leni Riefenstalh would tell the director to dail back the propaganda!)
Mo @2
Voting for Republicans–immoral.——-Scary indeed!
This phrase would make a good SIGN or Tee shirt!
I noticed on Morning Express with Robin Meade(FNN) that everyperson that emailed an opinion to the question of the day,had the exact same last name-Facebook. Didn’t matter if the respondent was male or female. Yesterday they all had the last name of Twitter. Must be a monopoly on e-mails. I hope the news about Pebble Mine is good because your picture of what appears to be a salmon steak has a hole where its heart used to be. That had to hurt.
For those who think we should ignore certain people/issues and that will make them go away:
http://www.politicususa.com/en/will-you-learn-from-niemoller-or-learn-like-niemoller
“As you can see, the Republicans have much the same list of enemies as Hitler – communists, trade unionists, social democrats (socialists), homosexuals, academics, pagans, (and substitute Muslims for Jews). Gays and lesbians don’t have rights, they say. Trade unionists don’t have rights. Neither do Muslims. Who will be next? There may not be concentration camps waiting for any of us but the loss of our constitutional rights is, or ought to be, terrifying enough.”
Have I mentioned lately that’s it’s immoral to vote Reupublican, even if you claim to be an independent “voting for the candidate, not the party”?
My turn,my turn. There must be a whole cadre of people on the internet with the same last name,that express opinions everyday and are used ny networks as standby opinion props. Just today on Morning Express with Robin Meade,the question was about larger warnings on cigarette packs. I swear I am not making this up. Every email was from someone with the last name Facebook. There was a first name,a middle initial and the last name was always Facebook.Yesterday they at least had some people named Twitter to go with their Facebooks. Must be quite a profitable racket. I hope the news is good about no Pebble Mine,because what appears to be a salmon steak has a hole where its heart used to be.
Bummed. Tuned in to Alice Cooper’s syndicated show on the Alaska outlet, KBFK “100.5 the Fox.” The Alaska Broadcasters Association sponsored a pile of commercials urging unemployed college grads to enlist in The Guard. The adverts (all using women’s voices) suggested that by joining The Guard unemployed grads MIGHT get money to pay off their student loans. Hmmmm. No way to complain to KBFK – the “contact us” link on the KBFK website goes no where.
correction: KBFX not KBFK (too much time growing up in the mid-west). KBFX is owned by the media monopoly Clear Channel Communications. Sorry for any confusion.
It’s just as well. Your complaint would only result in a form letter response that doesn’t mention your concern so you are saving your self some aggravation.
Yes and no, I get your point, but I’m used to that sort of thing – politicians routinely send me replies that echo their views even though I wrote them telling them to tell them I disagreed with their views – something that’s been real, for me and many others, for the 40 years or so I’ve had experience with. What I find appalling is that The Alaska Broadcasters Association is sponsoring adverts for The Military on a regular basis. These are the folks that have lots of power up here and seem to be flying under the radar too.