Anchorage Assembly Meeting – Non-Discrimination Ordinance Testimony
You can stream the Assembly meeting live HERE.
More public testimony will be taken on the non-discrimination ordinance.
Chair Debbie Ossiander has stated that there are 250 people left to testify who signed up last week. 88 people were heard then. Each person has approximately 3 minutes to speak, but people were reminded that all must be heard before discussion among Assembly members can begin.
My understanding is that testimony on the non-discrimination ordinance will begin at 7pm Alaska time (8pm Pacific/11pm Eastern)
Feel free to live blog the event in the comments. I know many who enjoyed rereading your fabulous live blogging last time.
I will be Tweeting from the event.
My Twitter feed is: http://twitter.com/Mudflats
Melissa Green’s Twitter is: http://twitter.com/yksin
Live blogging from Alaska Commons at: http://alaskacommons.wordpress.com
UPDATE: Here is a letter that Pastor Jerry Prevo sent out to his followers. It answers the question I’ve been hearing from opponents of the ordinance who bat their eyes and say, “Why do they keep using the word ‘hate’ when they talk about us?” This is why.
**Please forward this to other righteous citizens of Anchorage.**
Dear ABT Email Family,
FOR THE SAKE OF OUR CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN, RELIGIOUS FREEDOM, CHURCHES, CHRISTIAN SCHOOLS, WE MUST STOP THIS NEW ORDINANCE IN ANCHORAGE.HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE MORAL LIFESTYLE.
IT IS DISEASED AND DEVIANT.HOMOSEXUALS ARE TRYING TO FORCE US TO APPROVE THEIR LIFESTYLE INSTEAD OF JUST ACCEPTING THEM. HOMOSEXUALS ARE NOT BEING DEPRIVED OF JOBS, PLACES TO LIVE OR LOANS. THEY HOLD HIGH POLITICAL OFFICES, WELL-PAYING CORPORATE POSITIONS, AND ARE, AS A WHOLE, IN A HIGHER INCOME BRACKET.The liberals on the Anchorage Assembly are trying to pass an ordinance to give “special rights” to gays, lesbians, bisexuals, and of all things transgender perverts. Last week we surprised them with an overwhelming number of people there in opposition, but they do not believe we can sustain these numbers. They feel like we are a bunch of wimps when it comes to fighting for what is right. To make it even harder, they have scheduled, in addition to the Tuesday night meeting, as to make it even harder, they have scheduled, in addition to the Tuesday night meeting, a special Wednesday night meeting. I am calling off our regular church service Wednesday so we can overwhelm them again on Wednesday night. This is how important this issue is to defeat.
Below is some general information and BE SURE TO WEAR SOMETHING RED. (blue is their color) – Pastor PrevoGeneral Information: The public testimony concerning the proposed homosexual ordinance continues Tuesday and Wednesday nights. We need everyone to attend the Assembly meeting at the Lousacc Library. We need to fill up the Assembly Chambers with people wearing red shirts showing their opposition to the proposed ordinance. If you can arrive by 3 p.m., take a seat in the Assembly Chamber Hall. Bring something to eat or drink and a good book to read. Arriving early is important but coming when you can and being present, even outside, is just as important. We need to show the Assembly Members the voters of Anchorage will not tolerate this scourge.
{{{{{Ripley}}}}}
take away their effin’ tax exempt status if they want to be in politics…disgusting…
Inconvenient infant : <—– :))
It was my nephew I am standing up and walking out for. I went to the wall for him. He’ll never forget what is being done To him and For him. Hopefully, the bad memories will be replaced by the ones of me defending him and standing up to the “man” on his behalf. Hypocrisy and I do NOT get along. And I have just enough fire in me to make a stand and cause some damage, but stay clean myself. I am Ripley, hear me roar!
Thanks to all of you. I go to bed early so I didn’t even try to stay up for this. Just spent my first two hours of the morning reading your blow by blow. As somebody mentioned very early in this thread, you can sure see now how Palin got elected. The hateful, ignorant morons in Alaska outnumber the people with brains and tolerance. I’m truly sorry for you.
Aw, (((((Ripley))))). That sucks, but good on you for standing up for (yourself? someone else?).
I had to hit the hay after only an hour, but loved waking up to the liveblogging. (Is it still liveblogging if you are reading it after the fact?) Anyway, it sounds like it was quite a stressful experience for some.
What we all need to remember is that by spewing their hatred, telling their transparent lies, and boasting about gay-bashing, they are making the case for the ordinance. Obviously, it is very much needed to protect people from the very real and blatant discrimination that it happening in Anchorage!
Ripley in CT Says:
June 17th, 2009 at 4:40 AM
I missed it last night, due to some personal turmoil here, but I just wanted to relay my deepest gratitude for people like all of you who are so supportive of others who may not be the same as you.
Ripley – that’s just it, we are all the same – human. No two of us are exactly alike, not even twins, and that is why it is so important to support and accept each other. The way you are different is under attack now, but who is next?
I missed it last night, due to some personal turmoil here, but I just wanted to relay my deepest gratitude for people like all of you who are so supportive of others who may not be the same as you. I’m still reading through the comments and it might take me all day….That’s ok, because I walked out of work yesterday in protest of hypocrisy and injustice. So I have alllllll summer to read.
Also, too, I’m thinking of changing my name to “Ripley, the scourge of CT”.
AKM and all who showed up, ……..THANK YOU
All of you live bloggers…….Thank you and Excellent work! Well done indeed.
I think the Assembly session tomorrow (today) will be testimony on the ordinance amendment, from the beginning, at 4pm.
Sigh! me too Irish 😥
And good morning from the Emerald Isle. 🙂
I seem to have missed it all again! Darn the time difference.
“I believe all Americans who believe in freedom, tolerance and human rights have a responsibility to oppose bigotry and prejudice based on sexual orientation.”
Coretta Scott King quotes
@Justafarmer: Good luck romorrow and hopefully the weather is good. Night, Night.
CN, go to bed!!! I will if you will…
🙂
oooh this is like middle school phone talk….nite…hang up…you hang up first…ok…hang up!!!!
ROTFL…
ok, I’ll hang up…
niters!
(and I REALLY mean it now!!!)
OMIGOD what is with these FANATICS?
THIS IS PALIN’S BASE!!! Her and Prevo should take their hate mongering on the road..LEAVE ALASKA.
You have GOT to see the video!!!
A crowd of 15 protesters upset with the late night comic held signs and occasionally shouted as they stood across the street from Letterman’s studio.
But they were often hidden from view by the more than 35 members of the media there to cover the protest, and out-shouted by a few very vocal counter-protesters.
Palin Defenders Trash Letterman’s “B a s t a r d” Child, “S l u t” Wife
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/16/letterman-protest-draws-m_n_216566.html
before I shut things down, did we break a posting record? Can’t remember the numbers for Palin title whatever thread (which was great!)
OK…I’m off to zzzzzzzz land…..
Hi AKM,
One of your first tweets, I was going to respond and tell you to flip the bird from Canadian Neighbour. I can’t remember what had been said but the thought crossed the mind!!
Pleasant dreams to all
Meet you in the bat cave later today!!!
whuzzz, snort, oh!
Heya AKM! We had a blast!
Back again tomorrow…
and back to my zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Hi all.
Again you amaze me! I was sitting listening to testimony, and tried to leave a comment from my Blackberry, but no luck. I did ready many of your comments as I sat there, though. You were all voices of sanity for the progressive corner of the room. I passed you around several times for comic relief, or verification of what we were thinking. I’m putting up some pictures shortly.
Thanks for keeping me sane!
trish
I watch KO and Rachel online as I don’t get MSNBC
bucfan,
today they started at 5 AK time but dealt with other issues about land and stuff. Then they too about 30 min dinner break and started public speaking at 7 AK time. Agenda sort of looks the same but AKM will post later.
To bed Mudpups!! That means you justafarmer!!
ok…8pm est. I’ll miss Keith, Rachel. But that’s ok…will catch them on repeat.
🙂
LOL CN! NIters!
I think tomorrow they go through a bundle of other things like they did today and then they had that dinner break and came back to public speaking. AKM will post tomorrow. I mean today!!!
Testimony on Wednesday is at 4 pm alaska time, 5 pm pacific, 8 pm eastern, and 3 am Thursday morning Baghdad time
wow, just got reports from NWS…
Two mobile homes blown off their foundations with trees and power lines down (that’s about five miles away from me). 60 mph winds, one-inch hail, 1.21 inches of rain in 30 minutes (that’s lots moe than my .75 inch in 35 minutes).
Crap, I’m gonna be busy in the morning…off to bed for me…
I gotta blow this pop stand too!!
Have a good night or a good morning, whereever you may be.
Same time, same place, same bat cave tomorrow!!!
I’m same as justafarmer
EST 3:38
If tomorrow is the same as today, the testimonies didn’t start until 7 pm alaska time which makes it 11 p.m EST
It finished at 11 pm AK time 3 am EST
G’night you all. You guys rock.
🙂
Nan
hands that is – plural
I am off to bed. Seriously, thank you all! When I read these post I don’t feel so discouraged with the world.
2:30 here (Missouri)
I’ll try to make it. Let’s hope my hand recover by then lol
Canadian Neighbour
Thanks and LMAO!
On a more serious note….I can’t believe there are people out there that are so full of hate and ignorance. If religion brings that on I’m glad I have no part of it.
Did the Governor of AK have a stance on this issue or make a statement? Now that she is the new speaker of women’s issues, did she actually address this on behalf of gay women or men? I checked her Tweeter thingy and didn’t see anything.
I’m finally out for the night. Work is looming tomorrow.
I should be free around 4 tomorrow. will try to be here
is a four hour difference in eastern time zone land.
At least I think it is…..3:35 am here now
Nan
It’s 4 hours for EST
Justafarmer should be putting coffee on shortly!!!
lol lexky
At the moment, I don’t know if I’ll be there tomorrow or not. Depends partly on how much nap I can sneak in before then (besides the “night’s sleep” – hahahahaaaa)
and on what time spouse goes to bed lol
Opps, guess I’m not the one but very close hehehe.
Still, I am SO GRATEFUL for all you Mudpups that ‘took one for the team’! Thank you! I’ve been reading EVERY post, like it was some soap opera of ignorance. Don’t think I could have managed to watch so many red shirted buffoons in one sitting (w/o losing my cookies). What a labor of love!
congratulations justafarmer..
peace
4pm tomorrow huh? This has been so interesting that I think I will participate. Does anyone know how long it will last?
The quote of the day I liked was a twitter post by AKM about Ed Schultz:
MudflatsQuote of the day from Ed Schultz: “If Sarah Palin is ever President of the United States… Winnipeg, here I come.”
AKM will have a cow when she sees this thread!
I think it’s a 3 hr difference for Central time vs Alaska time (what is that, anyway? CA is Pacific time…)
I couldn’t watch the meeting tonight. I could have but then I would have to wake up tomorrow and realize how many morons are out on the road with me. I have read a lot of your posts. And it would be one thing if these people were giving well thought out views but most of what I see are fear, hate, fear, hate. And as for the guy who kept getting hit on by gay men, all you have to do is say no. It happened to me once years ago. At first the young lady I was with and I thought he was hitting on her. When we realized the truth, she burst out laughing and I told him I wasn;t interested. He apologized and LEFT. End of story. Nobody got beat up. And the worse part of this whole things are those kids in red being taught that great Christian virtue of hate.
@Nan
You are right about my name. It came about when Palin was picked for VP. I was going nuts, and I work with hard core republicans, so I was really having issues!
nan
it will be rough
Canadian Neighbour – you’re absolutely right! I didn’t realize it, but that was irresistable lol
yeppers, lexky. we’re back tomorrow! By my reckoning, the fun will start at 8 pm our time
lexky, I don’t know if I’ll survive another night of it.
rofl
The fun part was you have to interject your own thoughts as there is no way you can only just type their drivel and hate
CrazyInAlaska, I think that after tonight, I can see where that screen name might have come from. “Interesting” residents you have up there!
hang in there, ok? lol
Nan
this has been way too much fun, it should be illegal!
are we doing this again tomorrow?
And somehow AKM managed to escape!!! and didn’t even tell us.
You guys are great! My support team! Thank you! You all keep me from pulling my hair out!!!
congrats justafarmer
yaaaay justafarmer 🙂
sorry Lexky, but at least a Kentuckian got to be 1,000!
trish – I TOTALLY agree with you. I was given tickets to go see her. Gave them away. No thanks.
Hmm, am I 1000?
YAY!!!!!
I’m 1,000 and didn’t even try!!!!!!
lol at justafarmer
crazy – I don’t think Letterman has seen the latest video
the worst one? Oy. The one that made me the most irritated was probably the soccer mom type – so very busy, thought it was silly this was even coming up. She got a little OT (sorta). but she really wasn’t the “worst” (I have a “thing” against the self-proclaimed “entitled” – my bad)
I think one of the saddest was the woman early on, so very sweet, so much against it, and so hurt that there was so much fractiousness abounding. She could have been Aunt Bea’s cousing or someting
Me You Who
Tuned in Larry King
Kathy: Palin is a “moron”
I agree!
I don’t get network TV, so I don’t get to see Letterman except on the intertubes.
@CN, yes, I think it starts up again tomorrow, but earlier. 4 pm Anchorage time?
i want to be 1000
@lexky
You are right, he was a good one! How quickly I forget!
@CrazyinAlaska: You thought the last guy was nuts, there were nuts in that audience of every breed.
The red had punker — that was excellent!!
He punked them and us
almost there 🙂
last guy…the one speaking for god
Justafarmer,
I think I agree in that she didn’t go in and just the whole issue. Too much of what she said didn’t fly. Security wouldn’t do anything. Realllly
Actually, this has really been a learning experience for me because I was not aware of the extent that people were more willing to spew hate and intolerance. I knew that they existed but not at the level that were displayed last week and tonight. Actually, it’s kind of frightening.
the guy who talked about getting hit on by men in random states
@justafarmer
I think it was the last guy, he was a nut.
from what little I know, Levi has the best reaction to the Letterman thing of all of them.
There’s a new video of the idiot protesters (15 protesters, 35 media ROFL)
gads.
nan
thanks for the sympathy
letterman was good tonight
They have a meeting tomorrow night too?
Nan, it’s already way too late for me, so I’ll stick around for 1,000!
We’re getinig pretty close.
OK, who was the worse person testifying tonight?
My vote goes to the first redshirt woman who brought up her two daughters in the public bathroom (and I noted that she looked like the TG master sergeant)
Letterman just made a joke about his band preforming at the “rally” (fire David Letterman)
poor lexky!
I only had some “virtual” hooch – thanks to justafarmer
Gotta love CNN – Larry King on here at 9. I left station on while listening and typing so it replayed at midnight and geewhiz, it’s on again. Have seen Levi 3 times tonight. So much for being a News station. Repeat King and Cooper basically all night.
justafarmer
where will your pics end up?
cant have wine. at work 🙁
justafarmer, be careful taking those pictures. And I hope you don’t fall asleep in the middle of one of ’em lol
Nan
@Canadian: I sincerely concur.
its been interesting
lol seattle, is ALWAYS best to blame it on the wine!
Okay, I’m going to stick around until we hit 1000, Why, I don’t know, but then again, why not?
to all mudpups, thanks for a wonderful night!
Even a tornado or two or more couldn’t stop me!
seattlefan
I typed the word speech a short time ago with 4 eeee’s — speeeech. Saw it and said screw it. Just hit it to post!!!
haaa! I’m wide awake right now, but I hvae dogs saying let’s go to bed…
whops! Prevo’s people might have something dastaredly to connotate about that!
You know, the thing I don’t get out of all this is if they have the sexual orientation rule or law in the schools, what’s the big frickin deal.
Canadian Neighbour……ooops, I left out the “u”. Sorry. It is late and I’m blaming it on the wine. 🙂
sleep well, just a farmer 🙂
Doggonit – best (only!) belly laugh I’ve had tonight!
thank you!
Nan
LOL CN!!! My thought as well… those poor two kids….
They need two chicken moms!
justafarmer
Get your butt to bed!! Rather know you’re awake for taking pics as that is important.
40 kids and only 2 stalls!!!!
just doing my bit to get this thread over 1,000.
crap, is 3:11 am and I have to go take tornado damage photos in the morning (which is…crap…three hours away…CRAP!!)
Thanks to all of you doing the typing.
WOW. I didn’t know about the live streaming so totally missed last week. What an education. Was it needed — not really but it sure opens the eyes!!!
Same to you Canadian Neighbor! LOL…I’m sure we’ll never know, but I’m pretty sure it was Ziegler. You really should go read those comments. HILARIOUS!
I was finally able to connect to the hearings tonight. Wish I hadn’t, I’m sick to my stomach, bad taste in mouth & head whirling from all the ignorance out there. I’ll continue to watch though – gotta keep the positive energy sending out through the slime.
Couldn’t they save a lot of time drafting two or three letters and have the congregation sign them?
If we talley up the children in the ladies room with two men, there had to be about 40 children in the ladies room at the same time.
Omigawd, go to Huff Post and read about the “protest” by 15 (FIFTEEN!) protesters – and what they had to say.
Those people are SP’s “BASE” base.
unbelievable.
See everyone tomorrow …
what a night…and it’s not a SATURDAY!!!
My hands and fingers feel like they are reversed. My left is on the right and vice versa
nite nite, all
handing glasses of Scotch or bourbon or wine or bottles of beer all around…
I always knew I was surrounded by a bunch of loonies, just never realized how many till the last two weeks.
Oh, time to turn on Letterman!
I think this is the last person
YES!! Yay!
back tomorrow at 4 p.m.
I just could Not try to type that last one… just couldn’t do it. sorry
gaaaaaa….
Will you all bow your heads, from the Scripture of…….
Don’t hit me!!!
4pm tomorrow….that’s what: 8pm here in FL?
Double face palm from Oceander.
God sez……..God sez………
checking to see if I have enough Scotch left….
Does this guy think he is Jesus?
Seattlefan,
I heard that on TV about him hoping in cab. I guess that was Zeigler. It think it was Keith O that said it. LMAO!!
Have a good night and pleasant dreams!!
I feel like I am watching Footloose!
oh, we can’t depend on OPINIONS….
Tuesday Night Bible Study, courtesy of the Anchorage Assembly.
Guy says his opinion is worthless, so he will speak for God.
he was wearing a suit the first two times tonight
924 Canadian Neighbour Says:
June 16th, 2009 at 10:52 PM
Bathroom again. I’ve used the men’s at a concert in a stadium because line is too long at women’s
——————-
me too, LOL!
Is this guy talking about himself in third person?
this guy is back again for a third time tonight, just wearing different clothes,
Holy crap, this guy is speaking for god. Wonder if god knows he has a new spokesman.
His opinion is of very little value. I switched screeens, saw red — Yup, he’s right.
I’m actually a little tired of seeing the dang flag. “turned life over to Christ”
is now going to give us His opinion (Christ)
Thanks to all you live bloggers! I can’t keep my head up any longer and need to get to sleep. I was back and forth between here and Huffpo about the NY Protest thingy. Hilarious over there! Turns out only 15 showed up and the organizer reportedly saw how lame it was and jumped in a cab a left.
I hope this Assembly will wrap things up soon and do the right thing. Great reporting to all of you. I had the link in the beginning, but lost it. Not sure why.
oh here we go with the God stuff
trish, I would have, but couldn’t think how to get past the A$$ filter (spellign thing)
Canadian – yes, “calorically challenged”
is this woman starting to cry???
Crazy inAlaska,
He could probably give you great fashion tips!!!
I’m scared to go to the bathroom now…….they done skeered me……
oh, crafters of the ordinance were secret and underhanded and then there’s the boogeyman in the bathroom…
railroading it through. If intent was pure so must be hiding something.
Bathroom again. I’ve used the men’s at a concert in a stadium because line is too long at women’s
please explain to them that if they are in a dressing room with a man, his is GAY!!! He wants nothing to do with them!
Many of the reddies reference existing Federal and State laws. Would they, if given the chance, rescind those laws?
here we go…
Jeff’s wife ??
wow, they extended this week.
911 Nan Says:
June 16th, 2009 at 10:47 PM
wiseacre.
chopping off body parts will not change XX or XY.
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Nan, you’re nicer than I am–I’d call him wise a$$
some have been deceived into thinking “civil rights”
no, it’s “special reights”
Change sexual orientation to caloricly challenged. More discrim against them than gays.
Excuse me — you can change that. Get out of your truck and walk would be a start. Probably leave the 2nd and 3rd helpings alone.
2 words for ya Jeff…….diet and exercise.
11 pm, coming up on quitting time.
Yes, please make Anchorage a place we can be proud of! A place that discriminates!
sez protections in place are adequate.
or replace sexual orientation with “fat challenged” (or similar)
wiseacre.
chopping off body parts will not change XX or XY.
I don’t get these people. Just because you never have seen this type of discrimination doesn’t mean it does not exist.
Some of them seem to live their lives in a fairly closed circle of people. But, I doubt they are even aware of this.
Maybe it is easier to associate only with like minds that way you don’t have to expand your horizons?
a jokester
greatest fear (in a poll) #2 Dying, #1 speaking in public
He’s good too!
she was a teach, and had to teach kids not to treat others that way (name calling)
everybody has the right to be treated fairly
I love her! She is speaking from the heart!
YEA!!!!!!!! She did good!
her bro was called a fa**ot – one gal said “this isn’t what it’s about, i’m so sorry”
I think we saw the pictures of the kids in red shorts outside last week…
Anchorage Daily News has a new set up.
I drove thru the library grounds about 3:30, there were plenty of red kids there already.
the tenor is better tonight (you should hear the soprano)
oooh…she’s good!
this gal was appalled at the tenor of the whole thing, and felt compelled to testify so “you” would get a balanced perspective
Y’know, if there was no discrimination, they wouldn’t NEED the law!
Reddie, your ignorance is horrid! Please never come to the lower 48 because your type of ignorance seems to be contagious.
The reds should have a sticked slapped on them as they leave
“Have you hugged a Gay today?”
DUCK!!!! as you slap the sticker on them!!
“grandchildren we have coming up”
I think we saw the pictures of the kids in red shorts outside last week…
And what about all those grandchildren coming up? How dare we teach them to respect one another?
this guy in military, never seen discrimination in military or in anch.
think about your own fam, how do you want your fam raised here?
HOW in the world are those folks managing to get thru all this?!
Colin Powell???
South African whatever???
WTF???
That guy who kept getting propositioned must have been a lot cuter with hair.
I’ll bet he has it in a box on the closet shelf.
“by taking ‘choice’ out of the picture (born that way) then immoral behavior is no longer icky” (he’s talking FAST)
I defintiely need a long hot shower after this guy….
eeeeeeewwwwwwwww
@Canadian Neighbour
We have A LOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Canadian Neighbor–unfortunately, A LOT!
One good thing tonight, the reddies haven’t asserted that giving gay rights will lead to an increase in abortions like they did last week.
That guy who kept getting propositioned must have been a lot cuter with hair.
exactly my thoughts trish.
OK, I really am out of here now. Happy (?) blogging, ‘pups.
Media portrays the gays are victims. Bringing up Matthew Sheppard.
Columbine tragic event.
To win over the public, gays must portray as victims.
How many looney toons do you have in AK?????
“gays as victims”
I’m speechless now…
definitely another Scotch moment…
Mr “Not Available”…have to wonder if he’s just inthe closet?
Funny thing, he’s been hit on by all those ‘bad gay men’.
just sayin!
this guy is saying sheppard murder was “labelled” hate crime even before his sexuality was known
Conservative don’t believe the media but believe some old biblical text.
oh my! this guy is bringing up Matt Shepherd!!!!
propositioned when 18 (in military) propositioned again, “they had to pull me off of him”
again with the propositioning…
dangit. he was embarassed and wondered what he might have done to contribute to it. (we can’t blame the victim in a rape, we can’t blame this guy either. even if he is a little uh… goofy)
I’m not available……..no s^*t Sherlock…………oh boy…….wrong place wrong time buddy……if your story is true.
Whew! (wiping brow) Women and many men all around the world are dancing because this dud is not available.
this guy has serious self gender issues….
austintx
Not just the bottom of the barrel, add in the brain has gone on strike listening to this!!!
Mr. USA had a gay friend in NYC who wanted to do him. Then he was approached by gay in Military and he kicked the crap out of him.
oh and in Wisconsin!!!
what an eejit…
oooh he just said RAPE!!!!
He’s so sexay everyone is all up on him.
Ah, Bruce is a self admitted homo basher.
What’s wrong with just saying NO Bruce?
oh, now the hetreo man got hit on by a homo in NYC and in Illinois…
here’s a hint: JUST SAY NO!!!!
Bruce is gay. It is sad that the “propositioners” know Bruce better than himself.
announces he’s a “white american heterosexual male”
when 16, was propositioned by a 19 yr old.
I’m so glad I’m watching this at home so I can drink….yikes, he’s not available..I’m crushed.
my fingers are Not Happy.
For every new law you get a new set of law breakers — Yea the red shirts!!!
Get the new jail built!!!
Whew, Bruce isn’t available. That’s a relief to all the hot chicks out there.
he was picked on as a kid, too. he was small, slow they were bigger and he was “there”
the solution is not a “rule” cuz there are too many. this law if enacted will not get rid of mean people. for every law, new set of lawbreakers
Oh boy……we are scraping the bottom of the barrel now.
and he got PICKED on…
Guy says he doesn’t f__k his wife at work.
Remedial reading and special ed is in order for these dorks.
justafarmer,
I’m acquiring a taste for Scotch!!!
Next up, stupid irrelevant questions.
dagnamit..he passed over the line with bar owners…
If they only did 88 (?) last week, they’ve got better handling it. Calling 181 now.
Can a bar owner discrim against hiring an alchoholic. Probably not but it sure would eat the profits!!!
bar owners!!!
Passing the Scotch….
oops! it’s “Mark” not “maria” lol
# 815
Who has EVER heard of a GAY man, dressed as a woman (which truly makes him transvestite, not necessarily gay), hitting on a young girl in a bathroom? IDIOTS – he wouldn’t be GAY then would he?!! Could we start an open season on stupidity? Stamp it out, send ’em to school, send ’em to travel the world, make them live with gays – whatever works. ARRRRGGGGHHHHH! Maybe just send ’em all to the moon – we’ll deal with them later!
I love my parents, I love my parents, I love my parents… they always told me two things: be tolerant, and don’t succumb to peer pressure. They didn’t tell us WHAT to think, but showed us HOW to think.
They all have notes now, someone outside is prepping the reddies.
These people are retarded. I’ve never seen anything so sad.
WHAT????????
Oh, now we’re getting the story of Lot’s wife and pillar of salt etc. (WHAT does this have to do with ANYTHING here?)
The endtimes ??……….aw f^*k…….sodom and gomorrah…….is there one place these people can go
DUDE, read your own notes, not the ones you’re handed at the last minute and can’t decifer!
Guy reading cleft notes on Genius.
good lord, is this the best Prevo can bring to the micropone?
Someone should tell this guy that Cain killed Able and then had sex with his mother, according to the bible!
and he can sorta quote OT when it’s written on a paper in his hands..no he CAN’T!!!
Is this guy talking about the rapture? (the end times)
OK, before I go, as a resident of th CAPITAL CITY, WTF does the fact that it’s still here have to do with any of this cr**?
Viking dude can’t read what Dr Prevo wrote for him.
sigh. end times.
oh, great.
end times.
Did he just say, “bible thumper?” I think he might be discriminating!!
oh “I raised seven kids”…that’s a bonefide…
A people issue — put it on the ballot. What – for Prevo’s benefit??
is he asking for referendum? (snarky cuz he didn’t think someone was listening well enough)
No , you don’t count.
OK, the spouse just got home and said listening to this is obviously making me aggrevated (ya think?). SO, I’m getting dragged off to the hot tub… I’ll catch up with everyone’s fabulous liveblogging later. ‘Nite, ‘pups.
you stuck in a ditch, I’ll jump out and help you. as a fellow human being.
pause to gripe about a redneck sign from last week (redneck uniform or something).
ord will conflict with state law
this guy is good! He’s sneaking around the stuff.
Oh god, this guy is so narcissistic, “I was the guy with the sign.”
oboy. every gay person in his company has been promoted. digressing.
parent company has donated to PFLAG org (?)
(how nice, he works for a spiffy company)
I don’t hate anyone, just disagree
He went to the same school of hand gestures that sarah went to.
Will have to build transgender bathrooms – WTF.
She hasn’t looked outside her braincell. The state is attached to a country that allows gay marriage since 2005. Sexual orientation laws first appeared on our books in 1996. She might want to read a book, seach the internet.
I love the restroom thing! The men coming into the women’s. Hello?!! Nothing will happen, THEY ARE GAY!!!!
Reddie says that the Constitution guaranteed that government would not interfere with religion. Hey, Numbskull, all human beings having civil and human rights is in no way having government interfere in religion. Gosh you’re imbecilic.
ok. they’re passing notes to one another right before they get up there.
Come on DOWN!
How is it possible everyone’s children was in the lady’s room with two men last week?
dang…almost wish the tornado would have hit me tonight…
Canadian Neighbour etc
I think each one of ’em has brought up religion (maybe not this one, but… she’s still talking)
oh geez… here’s the restroom story again. Is she claiming to be the one that had the situation??
a man dressed as woman in the bathroom will HIT on the little girls???WTF???
was that a church song ringtone ??
OMG, the “sexual” ordinance? Really? And how idiotic to not turn off your cell phone before you testify. It’s NOT a choice, lady, really it’s not.
God is calling on this lady’s cell phone.
I hate that they keep saying “it is a choice!” They must not know ANYONE who is gay! And where is their proof! I have yet to see anything that show their proof.
what on earth is this woman trying to say???
Does it say some where in the Bible that these people need to wear red and repeat the same nonsense?
again, murder is illegal, but anti-lynch laws had to be passed before “some” realized they meant it (in the 30s I think)
How red on red on red can we get here?
Got those bumper bangs workin’
what us it with this redshirts having heavily wrinkling upper arm sleeves????
CrazyinAlaska,
“Has anyone in red got up and talked and NOT referred to the Bible, or Christ, or church? I am asking this as a serious question!”
Thank you for saying that. Canada isn’t Bible rabid as many have displayed tonight so it’s something I notice.
Is shaved head dude sewing his finger up?
state & nat’l constitutions guarantee “not interfere with religion”
is proposing changed wording to ‘allow” for constitution. (idjit doesn’t know the constitution is inviolable already? And supercedes anything else? good grief.)
wow, I missed a lot when the computer locked up (guess it couldn’t handle all the crap)…
BTW, I’m a Christian, and MY God doesn’t give a rat’s a** about who my neighbor loves. She loves us all and accepts us all as we are and is gonna let all the good people into heaven/the afterlife. (yes, I attend an “accepting” church)
this ord does not protect those who are “of the faith”
(christians aren’t perfect… just forgiven – sorry, tis my least fave bumper sticker and sticking in my craw badly right now)
I don’t think I have ever heard so many folks mentioning their religion during public testimony before in my life.
I used to attend city council meetings fairly regularly, too.
Maybe it is just the nature of the topic? Or, is this norm in Anchorage? Just wondering…
The fundies just wanna delay until “their” Mayor gets into office
Anybody Sin today??
This turd is blaming being gay because you sinned.
heard lot of accusation that thsoe opposed are motivated by hate/fear. most are not (sez he). those who are christians… (huh?) oh – love one another as ourselves (waiting for the “but”)…
last week someone said, “WHY would I choose *this* lifestyle” he knows. Ohh.. shes a sinner and so is he.
Really? ‘Cause in my book if you love everyone as yourself, you wouldn’t discriminate or hate.
Has anyone in red got up and talked and NOT referred to the Bible, or Christ, or church? I am asking this as a serious question!
The reddie with the hoodie: Hey family lady, you lie, you know very well that your daughter does not have 3 gay friends who are struggling with it. You know you would never allow her to have gay friends and would die the death of a rabid dog if you even thought she did. Stop the BS and admit you are homphobic and that’s who you are.
@Lori: actually, you still pretty funny (viz. 785). Sent me off with a laugh.
I am going to sleep now, and bid adieu to all mudpuppies.
it’s been ‘real’ strangelet
think of us here, ok? (just kidding)
Oh, so it’s okay to discriminate against gays because we do it to each (straight) other? WTF?
Doesn’t this guy know that women, and African Americans didn’t have an easy life, and that is why we have equal rights?!
good night strangelet – me sooooo tired too. we just not funny anymore.
yes, now it is “no sitting mayor” but do not fret, the bathrooms will re-appear and then it will be “no s h i t t i n g mayor.”
@771 fawnskin: I must say that the comments are getting less peppy. Perhaps you all are getting tired, or perhaps the speakers are, or perhaps Pervo had them line up by declining IQ. I think I need to retire — more yardwork tomorrow.
Night all. Thanks for the blogging.
That shooting has NOTHING to do with this, and does she really think that the Assembly would be out there dealing with drug deals gone bad if they weren’t sitting around listening to all their hate?
shooting at sports authority – wtf?
we’re not doing anything to stop it. we are blind to “other world” oiut there.
what does this have to do with ANYTHING?!
Gays caused the shooting at Sports Authority? wtf?
yes, just ignore it like bengich did and it will go away. yes, other issues are important – so therefore, ignore this one?
Oh for crying out loud you idiots. He waas elected as an Assembly member and everyone knows what happens when the mayor steps down; you get the Assembly Chair as mayor until the next election. SUCK IT UP!
Man in front row picking something out of his fingernails- distracting.
The hell I won’t!
“no respect for govt process – no elected mayor in here, other assembly seat filled”
unbelievable this is even happening. brownnoses “respect” at council. “if it passes, I dunno what’ll happen”
mayor begitch was smart – neer brought it up in 2 terms
Jeebuz I wish Mayor Clayman would unload on one of these “unelected mayor” people.
It’s called rule of law, succession to vacant office, do ya have a problem with that fundy?
any one notice that groups of them come in with the same talking point.
right now its “no sitting mayor”
What is the logo on her shirt ??
another one that “sorry we gotta take the time to deal with it” (has a “busy day, not prepared” )
muttering here: I will not snark, I will not snark, I will not snark, I will not snark,
Caused a lot of division? The division was already there, it is just visible now!
strangelet–true, but with this bunch, you never know what they’d do. I can see them trying to take it to the court.
Oh sob story. Maybe you should take care of your family and not come here to preach hate.
omiGAWD that one was PAINFUL!
may i point out that they’re getting worse…and less smart.
WHAT?
Ted Stevens ?? …………Oh S^*T…….look out….Black Helicopters……….red hat……fooled us…….butch ??
there oughta be an investigation (HEY! He could put in an ethics complaint maybe?!) ha
“claiming to be one of “us”” and claiming to be against, but pulling woll over eyes. what are we, fools? (WHO is he talking about?)!
Methinks he will be appointed to some vacant political position soon.
yes, how dare someone wear a red hat! that is THEIR COLOR. nobody allowed to wear a red hat. what idiots they are – again, they are helping to get this ordinance PASSED!!!
Why do I feel this one’s gonna bring up Obama.
It’s like a watergate here. Mayor that’s not even elected. Christian morals. We;ve been let down. Fight it to the max.
Red hat fools everyone here — YUPPER!! Pulling wool over everyone eyes.
How can we trust anyone.
All over a friggin red hat you moron
this guy might be related to palin
HA, what a dupe!
He has a sad, blames Ted Stevens, and admits he got fooled, then asked if he’s a fool.
What in the HE77 does Ted Stevens have to do with this?
http://community.adn.com/adn/node/141680
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article about J. O’Malley
“one of us?”!!! right there is your discrimination!
this reddie says it is like watergate and then like ted stevens…wtf?
new guy – in sorrow that he’s even here today. against ordinance
dunno about the council, he’s appalled. and could be doing his own life. shoulda never came to this – govt letting us down.
watergate type – stevens getting kicked out for false accusations – mayor not elected, trying to pass this bill before us.
This man is an idiot!
@741 InJuneau: The 9th Circuit is the most liberal, but they still wouldn’t give much of a rip about a city ordinance, except to consider its constitutionality.
If you aren’t gay, you don’t hear the discrimination as it’s not directed at you. He says I’ve never heard it. Lived since 1951.
DUH, time your speach before you try to give it in front of the Assembly!
He has a sad.
strangelet – heck if I know. Was typing as fast as I could. She said they put him in a “private” preschool, but I have a feeling it was a “christian” preschool or something
Testimony is proving you need an IQ below 80 to join Prevo’s church.
im sorry but the guy with the sleeves cut off of his shirt, i might have seen him on to catch a predator.
That guy in the front row is really annoying, hence my keeping that tab in the background and not watching it, just listening!
The chair screwed up calling numbers/names thru the 140s. One of my friends was in that group, I’ll bet he just got pissed at being passed and went home.
Too bad, he woulda been good.
evidence has been anecdotal and hearsay
haven’t met the lawyer yet that wouldn’t take the dollar (I have, but that’s another story – nan)
hey, I saw/heard this guy a little while ago!
@738 Nan: They have PUBLIC pre-schools in Alaska?
Is Carol Prevo trying to save herself for the last one. As she should have already spoken. Or did she leave!! That would be kewl
*HE* has not seen discrimination…
early in 50s, 60s, some ‘melding (?) that took place.
don’t need extra layer of buracracy
Canadian Neighbour–actually, the 9th Circuit is the most liberal Circuit Court in the US and often gets overturned at the SCOTUS.
2:13 am here in Kentucky, DH just woke up and said I know what you’re up to, where are those good cookies….LOL!
I think the last “lady” was Prevo – not the wife, maybe a relative.
4 yr old kid came home from preschool “Mommy, boys can marry boys” – kid yanked, then put in private preschool
not for, fer shure
@717 CN: This is almost trivial in context, but the 9th Circuit of the US Federal Appeals Court would have zero interest in the content of an Anchorage ordinance, unless they were to rule it unconstitutional.
At 4 years, he’s now 17. At 4 he came home from school and said boys can marry boys. == She screwed up. Bye Bye — No credibility
here is “I have Gay friends!” “see, it is ME who is being discriminated against!’
she got him out of a pre-school because her kid as told men can marry men.
oh, the horror.
The red shirts just don’t want it to pass while the “liberal” acting mayor is still in place, because he won’t veto it and then it would be in place. If they can delay long enough, it won’t get voted on until the elected mayor (Dan Sullivan) is in place and can veto is.
She doesn’t discriminate? Who is she kidding? Just listen to her…
doesn’t matter what color, what orientation… but now *she* is feeling discriminated against – signs at work (loads of gay at work)
passing a glass to InJuneau…
InJuneau – I’d like to be next for said jug
Karen Prevo is coming up soon????
Another Christian women saying gays are deviants.
Once again proving that they are being discriminated against.
that IS their agenda, they are awaiting mayor sullivan to veto. that is it in nutshell.
huh?
“timing of the attempt to pass the amendment ” and something about the “EEELECTED Mayor”
Seriously, justafarmer, pass that Scotch on up here. I need a big shot after that one.
I’m feeling sorry for these sorry pieces of Christian wannabes.
And this woman just used the dyke word as an apology.
i am getting really really annoyed with that idiot redshirt sitting behind the podium with that stupid grin on his face
@716 Nan: Too bad there isn’t a law that allows jailing people for spouting egregious BS.
Tell her to come see me!!!!! Please, Please, pretty please!!!!!
Where is the jailed pastor ?? Psycho-billy hater.
Since when have human rights for all been considered special rights? And I do not believe for a minute that you have two lesbian friends that told you they have never been discriminated against! And what if one of your precious little children who you are trying to protect from gays confide in you that he/she is gay? Would you stop loving him/her?
I love the generalities… the last gal said that religion can’t be taught in classrooms. Yet, religion is taught in classrooms throughout the U.S. – religion as history is taught in classrooms daily.
this one needs to move to wasilly. pastors will be jailed. prevo will look good in orange jumpsuit methinks,
9th circuit court of appeals is most liberal and they will interpret it like that. Oh man — when does this crap come from.
My fingers and my brain aren’t connecting for spelling!!!!
“christians have been JAILED (in canada or sweden or something) for stating homosexuality is a sin”
Brainwashing students?! You’re right! Brainwashing them to respect EVERYONE!!
oh this newest redshirt is a piece of work. Canada Scandinavia…
yes, she *does* have an angry voice.
doesn’t want gays to be homeless, jobless, or without health care…
but relig exemptions are inadequate, and judges can have diff interpretations (claims the judgs there are THE most lib)
hahaha, lori…”guarding the bathrooms…”
9th circuit argument…. gagh!
Canada, Scandanavia, and Philly? There’s a combination for ya.
justafarmer Says:
off for another Scotch…coffee shop homos….
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friends of Bristols , you betcha
hahahaaa! this last one said “asexual…I meant unacceptional,,,”
Oh heavens (is our children being edumacated – my goof)
Can’t speak about religion in church but this ord will allow it to be spoken about in school.
??? iPhone lady confuses equates homosexuality as a religion?
*Are* every one testifying Anchorage residents?
prevo never spoke, I swear I heard her name called. maybe she is out in the hallway, gurading the bathrooms from the Gays.
Julia O’Malley is a reporter for the ADN and grew up in Anchorage I think. I can’t believe that even if she’s never experienced discrimination in Anch. that she truly believes that no other gays/lesbians in Anch. have.
And do we really think that any who have would be telling all their red-shirt “friends” about it? PULEEZE!
ok, men dressing as women…I haven’t worn a dress since 1970.
I must be a prevert…
Julia Omally’s ADN pages…
http://community.adn.com/adn/blog/106971
if someone can “dress in drag” after the ordinance, well shoot – they already CAN – that story again
oh, to be s&^(faced
Bunch of red shirts saying there isn’t any discrimination but say they hate the gays and transvestites. LOL She thinks they are deviants and don’t deserve specials rights.
She gets a standing ovation from the haters.
“If I asked my lesbian co-workers if they were discriminated against I’m sure they would say no” wtf, is she a mind reader?
@Austintx
Very, very funny!! Thank you!
It’s hilarious that a redshirt can get up and argue that the ordinance is unnecessary because discrimination against gays doesn’t really exist. Hey, lady — look at your shirt — why are you wearing red??
Ord quicly pushed through. Don’t remember hearing about discrimination. Work with several at coffee shop & they say they haven’t. Do you think they would tell this beaatch the truth. I don’t.
Ord being pushed down our throats.
Back to the bathroom issue. Man Church last week didn’t provide enough alternate stories to use.
Yes, let’s put it to a vote.
Government by “Tyranny of the Majority”. To HELL with the Bill of Rights!
Now, THAT”S the American Way!!
aha, I knew she would be on the bathroom thing LOL – ho long b4 men dress like women and find their ay in there? (bathroom)
GreatGrey: Thank you. Sounds like she’s lucky, too.
According to the classmates.com website, there was a John Doe 1978 graduating class of South Anchorage High School.
I didn’t see him, so, don’t know if this fits his age. But, can you imagine having the name “John Doe”?
This woman leaked new Prevo tactic, to put this up for a public vote.
Oh, news media would have a field day with.
work w/several lesbians… supervisor – ‘if asked, they’d probably say no discrimination” (but HAS she asked?)
“rammed down their throats”
If we were playing a drinking game where you had to take a shot everytime the word bible or bathroom was used tonite….we would be s^*tfaced………
off for another Scotch…coffee shop homos….
Who the heck is Julia O’Malley?
Reporter for the Anchorage Daily News, recently promoted to feature writer. Very nice woman, gay too.
Her own opinion… special not equal rights.
“Do I want fairness for everyone? Yes” ????????!
OK,,,,,,,,,,, sure didn’t sound like it.
which one is prevo’s wife?
OMG, the reds are running, not in Copper River, but at the assembly, a whole slew of em coming up.
@Strangelet: It might as well be. You betcha!!
she said ASSASINATION?????
Well when the ordinence passes, they deserve to be nailed for not following rules.
Who the heck is Julia O’Malley?
therefore, can we not assume that… others have been treated respecfully. most acts of unkindness … oh, “victims (of discrim) must then bring it on themselves
Oh crap, portraying Prevo as the victim.
Paging Sarah Palin….
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripoli
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treaty of Tripoli
so, miss o’malley as not discriminated agaisnt, so nobody is. this is her logic. she has no logic, it is all illoical.
she said “jew-no” valley? I was trying for a phonetic thing)
influenced by julia o’malley (gay?) In her 10 yrs of coming out, hadn’t rec’d discrim or harassment (o’malley)
Doggonit — Note the name – John Doe.
Loranna Bobbitt would have made him a Jane Doe!!
nope, it is norma – just looks like prevo wife.
Just looked in my new copy of the Anchorage White Pages,… no listing for any John Doe.
Wifey Prevo huh ?? Looks like a shot of Tequila is in order…..
@656 califpat: Tithing? Is that a polite word for vomiting?
seems to be saying y ou can’t legislate acceptance
John Doe wants to talk about contract law. Thinks lawyers will make lots of money off the ordinance because Christians will keep discriminating against others. Doesn’t think people will follow rules. He’s seeing a lot of piercings at shopping center.
they gays ill corrupt the young folk. “ya gotta treat us the same way” – oh no.
what a turd. here comes prevo.
“what young people learn they learn from older people” Yes, like HATE!! What an idiot1
This Dtard should climb back under his rock.
It’s something that’s been going on thru history (that makes it ok? dammmmm)
“can’t take it away if it’s inalienable” (mispronounced, but idea was right)… seems to begrudge lawyers etc.
doesn’t like piercings or black lipstick or 2 girls holding hands lol
ummm…he just pointed at his clunky pack thingie…
Red Shirts — contractors won’t come in to build as they just won’t have anything to do with “them”. It’s a sin.
Those “thems” have names — Are men and women and boys and girls.
yeppers, looks like the little wifey of the rev. prevo up next!
omigawd. two contractors, one discovers the owner of the house is “other” then one of the contractors won’t come back ??? huh?
Oh, lawyers are gonna make a lot of money. sheesh
After his quoting of Biblical verses I almost feel like tithing.
and what was the noticeably clunky pack he dropped on the table there?
JOHN DOE MY PATOOTY!
strangelet – I will! (634-ish)
If we were playin………what ????…….did she just say Prevo ?!?!
i would have a difficult time of it in anchorage if this fellow got his way and everyone had to be christian.
Sourdough Mullet Says: (of the old testament bible lady)
Woo Hoo! If this whack job Christian Wingnut with the Webster’s dictionary doesn’t convince the assembly to vote FOR the ordinance, nothing will!
EXACTLY! This is what I believe whole-heartedly. The red sh*ts are HELPING to get this passed, no doubt in my mind. Most are not clever, logical, or able to hide their bigotry, and they make the case to pass this ordinance BETTER than those who show up to support it. so funny, they do not know that they are helping to pass this! my eyes hurt from the stoooooopid.
alert: Carol Prevo coming up!!
159 – Did she say Carol Prevo — any relation????
and why does his upper sleeves look all wrinklely?
John Doe? Give me a freaking break.
OMG, I SO don’t think the City of Anchorage was founded on the principles of the Bible!
hey, justafarmer, could you pass that bottle of scotch my way?
does anyone else see his suit as a olive-tone uniform?
GreatGrey, he is a little unsettling, fer shure. (Now watch him get up and be in favor… ) ha.
Professor sighting moral commandments of god. Nation based on Christianity. He doesn’t believe in reason and rational thought.
@636 Crazy: Unfortunately, they’ll never stop saying it, even though it is not true.
a Supreme Court case????
LOL, CN…handing a glass to you too, also, there…
Those of you who attend church might get a pass this week just by watching this meeting. 🙂
what is is ??
I think this Mormon boy must have gotten hit in the head w/ one the holy tablets…
Can people stop saying that the country was founded on the Bible!!
Did this dork just bring a bible up to the lectern ??
@625 Nan: You should look it up. It gives an entirely non-wingnut view of the actual beliefs of the actual Founders.
wants, in his blue shirt (!) the city to adhere to the moral whatsit, now reading from Bible.
oh crap, another OT quoter…
justafarmer,
Me Too, Me Too!! I can easily learn to drink listening to this!!!
@ GreatGrey:
You think? Driving me crazy!
and that guy in the front row has PAPERS in his hands!
I love when well spoken people get up there, with facts!!!
I’m gonna be hopeless in the morning doing tornado storm damage photo documentation for NWS because I can NOT leave this!
The shaved head guy in the red sleeveless t-shirt with the flag on the front row is starting to bug me.
“Treaty of Tipoli” – ??? we are not a Christian country, we are not based as … wow, I gotta look that one up!!!
Adams, Treaty of Tripoli – very important.
This gal is ner – ah, thyroid prob, bothers voice.
sees so much discrimination in these testimonies, figures there is a need for…??? (love her hair!)
this woman speaks quite well with just a few notes
Welcome back Snoskred. You kept me laughing when I needed it last week.
oh gawd, thank you farmer!
To quote Bill Maher, “…consuming shellfish is an Abomination” I am sick and tired of people pulling the Bible into play when it works for them.
This woman is a Bible thumper of the worst order who uses the Bible to take away others free will and human rights through Christianity.
handing a glass to Nan…we need it
Woo Hoo! If this whack job Christian Wingnut with the Webster’s dictionary doesn’t convince the assembly to vote FOR the ordinance, nothing will!
Red Shirt black woman pretends ordinance will make her sleep with other woman.
Red – African American – I’m sorry, there was a lady earlier who spoke of one of her relatives that marched with Dr, King for your rights. A White person.
Well, I guess we know how she feels… can’t get much more red in a single outfit… I wonder if she’s wearing white underneath…
violate her right to practice her religion according to her faith.
(whatever happened to Jesus’ words “Live and let live” eh?) wow.
she is Old Testament, but then talks Jesus (so, she makes absolutely no sense). she gives us basic instructions before leaing earth. WHACK.A.DOODLE.
oh my! she’s quoting OT and just reciting….sigh
oh my “witchyu””
sigh…
WHACKADOODLE ALERT!!
At some point they’ll close public comment. When they think they can do so without too much protest. They’ll say both sides had their say and enough is enough.
what on earth is this woman talking about? She can hardly pronounce the words.
onerous, flagerently ROTFL
whackadoodle alert
The red shirts want to keep it going on until Sullivan is in.
me too, CN. Red Hat punked them big time!
A walking dictionary, just what everyone needs.
I just had a frightening thought. They let people sign up every day. They allow anyone to testify, even if not from Anchorage. I remember one from last week from out of State! So, if the red sh*ts have 100 people sign up each day, even getting folks from across the Nation (fellow Fundies) – this could go on for years and years – OR will the assembly panel at some point stop further testimony? Do they HAVE to keep listening until ALL people who want to be heard ARE heard?
Gotta say, some when they start talking, you aren’t sure – yes or no. As they keep speaking, there isn’t the clarity to know and then poof — they are for it.
Good for the older retired lawyer lady!!
And I loved the red hat guy punked them except he’ll hear it later. Oh well. Good for him. He started strange and got stronger!!
ok, is the yellow badge ACLU or Equality Works?
another yellow badge!
finally a run of blue…
I hate how nervous some of them are. It makes me feel so bad for them.
up to the 150s, so we’re just halfway…
Regina of the famous blog lives in France, so I don’t think so.
that was fun!
sexual activity in the workplace? And she says sexual activity in the workplace has historically been by heterosexuals.
it covers who people are, not what they do. works for fed govt, protected against discrimination.
however, the activity in the workplace can get you fired!
She’s cute.
I have to get in on this.. I think the eye doc was against it too
for 64S, against 64S1… Hm.
Sec 9 of S1… getting to the nitty gritty!
this lady is named regina, wonder if she is the regina of the famous blog?
I think the eye doc was against.
@Forever Anonymous, I couldn’t tell on those two!
i think that that “fart” noise is someone snoring
oh my! This is a change of boat in the middle of the river!
this will protect heteral as well as homosexual (according to him)
that was cool
we havent had any bad weather here yet. hope everything is ok.
nothing cuter than baby chicks.
if only this group were as smart as those chicks.
The optometrist stayed safe and rode straight down the middle. He was neither for or against it. He refused to take a position.
AMEN !!
Hah! He punked the reddies by wearing a red hat… lol
Did this kid take “oratory” in high school or something? or just nervous, prolly.
folks think discrimination is ok, not because of facts, but their own private lives… (he’s for it, btw). born and raised, no idea of the prejudice around him.
wow!!! He is asking for the ordinance to be passed!!!!
WOW!!!!!!!
oh, good night ennealogic
He is in support of it!!!! The guy in the red hat!
Between red hat and guy in front in cut off red shirt is killing me…
TELL IT !!
oh, a silly cheerleader….
lexy, had a tornado touchdown five miles away and then another one about 10 miles away as hte crow flies (but about 45 minutes to drive there), have to go take pics for NWS in the morning.
Got new baby chicks this morning, plus chicks hatched two weeks ago with two moms. It’s a hoot watching the two moms herding the three chicks, and hte chicks don’t care that they have two moms.
will of the people for or against? law, can’t prohibit exercise of religion. if they feel this violates their religion… ??? huh?
(pity for council, they got a hard job) Is he for or against? sheesh.
benefit of doubt to haters. courts will have to read intention within folks hearts (sounding like bidness owner a bit)
was the eye doctor for or against?
Very animated doood, but a gentleman takes his hat off indoors.
rights vs. liberties – big constitutional issue – cites constitution – it is for the will of the people. gov. is forbidden to violate freedom of religion – so this ordianance forces the red shirts to violate their conciences?
Ennealogic-# 12 & 27 in support or against?. Ihave followed your notes, I got
16 yes – 23 no
The Rabbi letter was from Michael Oblath, who is the Rabbi for the Reform temple Congregation Beth Sholom which is one of two synagogues in Anchorage with the other one being an orthodox oriented one affiliated with Chabad.
The rabbi is Rabbi Michael Oblath of Congregation Beth Sholom in Anchorage.
optometrist, has seen damage from AIDS, doesn’t judge – doesn’t wanna be judged as hater or as going to hell – just for disagreeing with someone
InJuneau Says:
June 16th, 2009 at 9:18 PM
Actually, Ethan was a State Representative
I never get his quals right, even though I really like him. He was awesome calling out people during the petro tax debates, “Stop taking calls on the house floor”.
Now that sounded more like a frog croak……….
another fart mic adjustment…
teeeheee
Anch more diverse now than when he grew up. Dad escaped France before nazi – got to NY, “no jews or dogs” – bad bad
we don’t choose gay, we just feel it. No discrimination, not “special rights” but basic rights.
we’re getting a few 5 stars in a row.
makes me happy
whaddup just a farmer
another ACLU!
asked to read Rabbi somebody’s letter. he’ll read, then hope to have time.
member of clergy, peculiar ‘societal context” – god would be ashamed (of some of the stuff that’s been presented).
“equality & acceptance”
CRAIGSLIST FOR GOVERNOR !
@Ennealogic: Night, night and sleep tight…..
Actually, Ethan was a State Representative and House Minority Leader. Then he ran for Lt. Gov. with Tony Knowles in 2006. Then he ran against Don Young in 2008. I think he’s planning to run for Gov. in 2010.
Ms. Wrighter, you covered the topic superbly. You go girl. Fist Bumps!! Yea!
[last one for me, I have to get sleep!]
46 – seems to be in favor, national org of social workers and studies say gay is normal, comments that lots that has been said was “fuzzy” .. sees bigotry here, and if that isn’t oppression, what is… again, strong comment against discrimination
Once again, fear versus fact … bigotry versus tolerance … my religion versus your deviance
Wow. Good night all.
austin, I think we broke last Tuesday’s post numbers!
YES, justafarmer!
advocates an end of discrim due to orient, not a mental disorder. supports non-judgemental, supports awareness.
she’s straight, many many friends are gay. Sees the hate, sees the dignity of those standing to speak and just continue. “If that’s not oppression, what is? What is?”
I am here – I’ve had a few things going on today like my teevee getting taken away for servicing, but I am watching this. 😉
I will like to adopt many of these people. I loved Chris who said he was a civil engineer, if he is reading this you rock, man. 😉
Oops, more my bad, that’s not Ethan.
Lori, I’m just trying to keep an open mind and give benefit of the doubt. He is like so many people I know who were raised in a bigot environment, know it’s not right, but that early raising is still there.
He is the poster child, in my view, who knows in his gut it’s not right but can’t articulate it and, at the same time, is trying to break away from his upbringing.
I say that because I’ve seen this time and time again over the decades.
That guy just needs some friends who can get him to finally break that bubble he’s pushing.
social worker, social workers support this ordinance
none of the psych professions believe (homo)sexuality is disorder, proven by research
RYDER FOR GOVERNOR!
Lori in Los Angeles
I started to type something he was saying, thinking it was good and then wasn’t sure. Somewhat mixed messages that is he or isn’t he. When he said at the end they were really going for first step to gay marriage — then he lost me.
economic …. alaska commission on aging website “economic something”
44 – business owner, employs gays and lesbians, but is afraid of being sued if ordinance passes; refers to gays forcing the issue like a militia, says gays have agenda to get marriage legal for them
45 – in favor, need the ordinance to allow the Equal Rights Commission to gather the data – strong, knowledgeable testimony, the gay community very important to Anchorage
Yeah Baby…….you go girl……..can’t add to any thing she said.
Oh, my bad, he was a State Senator.
Next man up is Ethan Berkowitz, former Assemblyman and last years Dem canditate for US Rep from Alaska.
spunky tough alaskan here. she seems a happy soul. she is supportive. she says there were/are outbursts and threats outdoors.
says me: gee, which side do you think is doing the threatening? the rightous prevo ones, that is who.
You GO GIRL. give her a 5 fawnskin.
Just an aside: A true indicator of the class of Mudflats commenters is that you have all resisted the temptation to refer to the clerical instigator of most of this balderdash as “Pervo”.
Oh, except me.
sez there are threats last week and tonight outdoors. family would be for, she is for.
Thanks for exposing a bigot and giving him hell!
Ya’ll are doing a great job on the comments! I almost feel like I’m there.
Jeremy…….you have a sense of entitlement…….did your Daddy give you the 70 employee co. ?? just askin’…….
Where is Snoskred?
Wild. A guy that does the right thing because it’s right, even though his heart doesn’t (?) agree. Sorta.
oh my, he’s digging the hole deeper…
we’ll agree to disagree on this fellow justafarmer.
Are all of the idiot speakers members of Prevo’s Assembly?
Gutierrez – awesome dude! asking why this would be diff from “not” hiring a hispanic, an African Amer, etc.
bidness owner claims that true intentions are to “further agenda”
wow, wait until his employees hear about his testimony
@520 Lori: Whenever somebody says “the _______ will cry discrimination when it does not apply”, methinks you are correct, he is lying.
Biz guy things he’s going to get sued. Thinks it’s all about gay marriage and some crusade.
Nan, I got that from what he was saying but then he turned it around to something like don’t ask don’t tell.
I’m fairly certain he is good at heart but he articulated it very bad.
the truth comes out – “to further their agenda” – he is PRETENDING to be fair and to have hired gays, he is a phoney methinks.
Green shirt is a valley dweller, complaining about the Glen Highway.
he’s afraid of … wow! afraid of lawsuits from disgruntled, passed over applicants
insisted on being allowed to finish (said “No” to chair)
he is not used to being on tv, this new one. he thinks he is on american idol for lawd’s sake. he said “you betcha!” the people are beginning to speak like the GINO, she has dummied down AK. He does not tolerate a hostile environment, well good on him but does he realize that many others do?
thinks gays will cry discrimination when it does not apply. he is now demanding to finish, he is about to throw a tantrum. methinks he is pretending to be more fair and tolerant than he actually is. methinks he lies.
the lesbians and gays would approve what I say…yikes!
bidness owner since 70s, “why” would the city put add’l unneeded “stuff” on his staff etc.
When the gay guy asks if he was passed over cause he was gay, all the bidness owner has to say is “No”, not get out his checkbook. Duh.
oh, this green shirt. “employment choices”.
sigh,,,,
Jeremy STFU
he does have gays – most diverse employment. to some, work is the best part of their day.
his employees have asked for a chance. does not tolerate a hostile work environment
bidness owner since 70s, “why” would the city put add’l unneeded “stuff” on his staff etc.
A toast to the brave guy who gives voice to those who can’t. Clap, clap, clap, whistles, whistles and high fives.
Jeremy sez we can’t have equal rights because of the economy? WTF?
If people want proof of discrimination, all they need to do is listen to the red shirters.
and the crowd goes positive for Chris!
wow……he is laying it out…….he is coming out right now. He means it………I hope he doesn’t lose his job…….landlord and will rent to anyone…….I respect what he says……..loud applause.
religion is a choice, race is not a choice – both protected.
all born of man/woman. not asking 4 special rights, onliy equal rights.
42 – red shirt, unintended consequences, so many! fear, pervasive strife, division… “establishing another special class at the expense of the ordinary citizen” , lawyers will get wealthy, gay is behavior, all the christian schools will get shut down
43 – for ordinance, risking his job to speak because they don’t know he’s gay; not ‘special rights’ ; wow… i hope he doesn’t lose his job. Strong emotional statement.
strangelet Says: “I think they’re all going to become martyrs.”
OKIE DOKIE! : )
499 LoriLA: Very hard to understand for people who do not consider gays to be humans.
i truly truly want to hug this very brave man.
Religion a choice. Race not a choice but both are protected— YEA!!
yikes. he is within one year of professional certification.
He does not discriminate, goes by employment – it’s the right thing to do
oooh, I’m sending out a virtual hug to Chris.
Red shirt said it was a poorly written ordinance and he of course gave a poorly written response.
this guy is right on – BASIC rights is what this is about! Not special rights. how hard is that to understand????
austintx: I think they’re all going to become martyrs.
guy is risking his job, not “out” at work, but speaking for others.
Does this man know there is livestreaming?? He may have neighbours there. He’s not out at work == he is now
Yay for Chris!
oh, good.
a five star at last
closing “christian” schools ?? WTF is he talking about ??
@486 fawnskin: Ah, thanks for clearing that up. Now I can support the ordinance because it will allow so many christians to become martyrs.
it has pervasive, *intended* consequence – something about Boston adoptions (???)
Boy Scouts, Salvation Army, … when Chrisian schools are shut down… 2k kids in Christian schools, 38 million will be needed when the Christian schools close down (that’s one of the consequences???)
sheesh
Will have to close Christian Schools. Duh Red shirt of course
I can’t believe these redshirts who have to have papers in front of them to read.
I wouldn’t need no stinking papers to speak my mind!
just say “consequences” eighteen times and we will be so afraid, yep uh huh.
christains schools will be shut down! huh? now public schools will be shut down. huh? consequences say it over and over……..
The SP clone is laughable. Maybe she should be denied housing and employment for sheer ignorance.
no strangelet,
there is absolutely no relationship between chet and this ordinance other than all christians are sure to become martyrs if this ordinance is passed.
Some girl wants answers. Full of endless questions. Wants to know why blondes aren’t protected because of all the dumb blonde jokes.
a LOT of people (mostly reds) say it’s poorly worded.
Also divisive, nothing to do with discrimination, but a protected class…
so many unintended consequences, but he speaks in broad generalities – be specific re these so called consequences if we are to listen seriously
another tighty white redshirt. Watch him switch his butt side to side
There are more dumb blonde jokes than homosexuals. I haven’t got a word to explain what to call her —- AAAGGG
You can document “bad credit” dumbf^*k… dumb blonde jokes ?? thats you honey……
omigawd. Even SP makes more sense than this one!
‘trying to be above federal law’ which sez anyone can refuse anyone for any reason… where are the dumb blond …the what?
never did figure out what she was trying to say
taupe jacket with some green accent around the neck.
“Where are the inclusions for the blondes?”
[I’m not gonna make it to the end!]
41 – calls testimony “hearsay” and seems to be disputing evidence of discrimination, refers to AK law where marriage is between man + woman, is chiding the assembly … I have no idea what she was really trying to say
This one is being a smartarse
@466 fawnskin: Was there any connection drawn between “Chet” and this ordinance?
she is pretty nasty to the assembly
oh, this woman is GOOD!!!!
HUNH?
there are soooooo many of them.
with soooooo many little brains.
Lady in the purple, I say prove all the nonsense that spewed out of your mouth!??
calling up the 140s…we’ll be here for MONTHS!!!!
I’m confused- did anyone at the meeting actually read and understand the proposed ordinance?
calipat, I think he ran out of time before he could finish
and this one – many have been “cured” (or soemthing like it)
yes, chet was killed in columbia while trying to translate the bible into a native language.
he was considered a martyr by his fellow christians
wonderful…..biology lesson…….go away
is she making any sense at all?
her time is up, praise the drol.
40 – purple shirt, says ordinance is confusing, poorly written, refers to 64 as undermining “traditional marriage” amendment, talking about chromosomes and gay as behavior not genetic, people can overcome homosexuality, gratuitous reference to 40 kinds of sexual deviancy
Woman says homosexuals can be cured? Pagin Ted Haggard.
Ethan Berkowitz, he’ll be good and prepared.
the ordianance is not even about gay marriage – she thinks it is! nothing about marriage in there at all. quoting Jesus -you cannot be both male and female and you cannot switch back and forth. you can overcome homosexuality. this one is a big DUD.
Did reddish – purple shirt ever get to his point and tell which side of the debate he was on?
Are only red ass-hats talking?
wow, another purple…
Woman deleted all her comments before she looked to see what changed? That’s some planning, yepper.
is this a story of a poor persecuted christian? what did it have to do with this issue? just a platform to promote how the christians are picked on and killed for loving the Lord? oy vey.
that is really a “What Not To Wear” outfit…
39 – reddish-purple shirt, recounting personal anecdote about neighbor taken from his home against his will, mischaracterized for his message of love?? executed… by people who had preconceived notions about him, killed because of his religion
wtf
justafarmer Says:
anatomically correct
====
Reminds me of Barbie!!!
I posted this in Sunday: you betcha they are all there regurgitating Prevo’s last “sermon”. he must have posted his “statistics” on his hate filled web site:
Talk about spewing hate…I just happened to turn my TV on this morning to try to catch GS, and who is on the channel that came up but Jerry Prevo. UGH. I usually flip the remote as fast as I can when he is on but I stopped for about 2 minutes (as long as I could take) to see how his fundraising is going. He is like the girl in the fairytale who opens her mouth and nothing but snakes and vipers and spiders come out. His latest diatribe: he stood at the pulpit and spouted a bunch of “statisitics” (never stating where they came from) about how homosexuals have from 500-1000 partners in a lifetime (promiscuity), how gay men are more likely to die from AIDS (and therefore are a health hazard–old news Jerry, I lost more of my friends than I can count in the 80s and then the gay community got smart and started to protect itself– long before the heterosexuals figured out “oh my god, this isn’t a discriminating virus, we can get it too”–but god forbid that we should teach our hormone raging teenagers about condoms). I digress: He then went on to state that “we discriminate against smokers” and that if you can refuse to rent an apartment to a smoker then you should be allowed to refuse to rent an apartment to a homosexual. Holy bat-@%$t Batman! Those gays are going to endanger our health and pollute our air and stink up the carpets and shades if we rent to them. Huh. Does that mean that we can refuse to rent an apartment to a “Christian”? Hypocritical son of a….. . But the kicker was when he said that he hoped he would be “dead or raptured” before he saw equality for homosexuals come to pass. And, more importantly, before the government stuck their noses into “church” business and told them that they would no longer be tax-exempt if they continued to spew forth this hate talk from their pulpits. To this I started screaming at my TV “bring it (the rapture) on then..I hope to goodness that it takes all of these vile, hate-filled, paranoid people right off the face of the earth (that I love) and leaves people who just want to live and let live behind.” That would be heaven or earth. When I calmed down and read between the lines I noticed that what he failed to mention, to his enraptured crowd of followers, was the possibility that his fundraising for his “cause” is not about anything more than raising money to press his political agenda on the masses. Sounds like politics to me. Church and State anyone? Then he says “and there will be ushers coming down the aisles (of his mega-church) to collect your checks..just make them out to Anchorage Baptist Temple” I think hmmmmm, I wonder how much of that money makes it into his pocket??? I turned the TV OFF.
I can’t get the live feed because I have dial-up and it is incredibly slow so I am counting on all of you mudpups to keep me up to date.
Thanks.
does anyone know about this “chet” who was killed in loma linda.
Lori in Los Angeles Says:
June 16th, 2009 at 8:46 PM
he has blue and red shirt on. will he or won’t he?
He will, his friend was an xtian. But he had no point at all.
loks lke=looks like…
obviously too much Scotch here…
sounds like he has had a tipple or two too much as well.
Lori, it loks lke some kind of new age druid cloak
and she threw Christianity into it.
Oh and the crowd laffed after the assemblyman made a final comment, which I missed..
he has blue and red shirt on. will he or won’t he?
I don’t need you to explain later……GD !! I did not even get to finish before I heard bathroom………pissed off little b^*ch…….400bc…….hit the road wench….
oh, I can NOT believe she’s talking about obese and cancer patients
38 – opposed, this one says there is no real discrimination in health care, ordinance is discriminatory, costly, poorly worded, increase beaurocracy… quotes Plato permitting sexual act only between man-woman
I’m sure glad you guys write such good comments. It gives me the flavor, without having to actually listen to the wackjobs (I know they’re not all wackjobs, but the wackjobs would make me crazy).
It’s a little depressing to be forced to realize that a significant fraction of our fellows are still living in a pre-Enlightenment mindspace. On the other hand, maybe the ordinance will pass — it is the 21st Century (for many of us, anyhow).
I wish the Assembly would make the speakers prove where they live. I don’t necessarily have a problem with the out-of-towners getting to voice their opinions (however obnoxious), but they shouldn’t be allowed to pretend to be constituents of the people who have to vote.
Forever Anonymous–WfAK is Mudflatter “Writing from Alaska”
Lordee, it must be nice to be so certain. heaven help us
Yellow shirt nurse says she has never seen discrimination. She asked a bunch of physicians and talked about it for 3 to 5 minutes. Unisex toilets very expensive. She thinks it will add thousands of pages to her work. Will lead to endless lawsuits.
anatomically correct? it’s not gonna work????
oh dear!
the doc asked other long time ak docs what they’ve seen /heard re discrimination
there is no discrimination! she believes that – she is a doctor ? she has only head of 4 cases in the US out of millions (of discrimination). guess she did not listen to the testimony of all of those who have suffered discrimination in anchorage. and now all bathrooms must be remodeled. if I ever visit alaska and get sick, PLEASE do not take me to this doc. she just said doggonit!!
I cannot take her anymore – bathroom obsession again.
sorry, I have to say it finally….she is full of CRAP!!!!!!
physician 25 yrs in ak, too costly, and is dicriminatory itself (quotes from plato)
WHY would – unisex jons (again)
Dang! Telephone rang and I answered it and missed Red tie. What was his stand?
Angry Doctor woman, also into necrophilia.
what on earth is she talking about with doctors?
so according to this woman there is no discrimination
Red Tie — They aren’t special rights. They are rights that you as a white man have. To work, to educate, to live without a moron like you in their face.
oh criminy. Murder is illegal too, but they had to pass “anti-lynching” laws back in the 30s (I think) to make it stick for “all” persons. sheesh
36 – pink dress, afraid of curtailing freedoms, saying ordinance takes away religious rights to give to gay rights; calls gay a “behavior”
37 – red tie, oh dear, he’s righteous and was lucky to be able to speak tonight, unlike the people speaking for the ordinance who have too much time on their hands… talk about smug.. (sorry, I’m trying to be objective here but this guy is crazy), called himself against the “homosexual agenda”
Yellow shirt guy. Don’t hurt the many for special rights to those being discriminated against.
again the “special rights” and “it’s a choice and bad law”
not a red shirt, but a red tie…sigh…
I look REALLY good in red, hate that I have to throw all those clothes out…
he set aside his responsibilities to God to come here tonight, lol! we do not need another protected group! I suppose he is pissed that women, minorities and children have “special” rights too.
I swear he hung on the aanncient a little long…..
going over the thing paragraph by paragraph. “Actual orientation” want’s definition. bad law, reject it
Archibald needs to sit down and STFU. He is just a bigot hiding behind building strong families and communities, he professes to be building while leaving out an important segment of the population. He believes that gays are just choosing to act in ways that are destuctive to themselves and their families. Code words again. What a joke!!
Lady in yellow says ordinance doesn’t protect religious freedom. She think homosexuality is all about bad behavior.
red tie….what does it mean
SHE has concluded this ordinance is bad. we have right to judge how humans behave and she justifies being judgemental. who died and made her the deicider? the purpose of the ordinance is to take away freedoms! what spin! she can go head to head with fox noise.
Physicsmom,
I agree with you. She just wants to talk to someone. When she said she didn’t know any gays, I have to admit I screamed — Look around the room. Look who has been speaking.
Ya know, she and the lady with the t-shirt early who lost her job, could probably get along quite nice!!
she’s making my head hurt….
freedome of religion and these ordinances are “mutually exclusive” – point of ordinance, to take away choice and right to act on beliefs.
(humpf)
We only heard 88 last week……..and there were 300 plus signed up.
oh, she’s wearing a shade of red: pink
A guy quotes some unknown and crazy ancient king, do move ancient boundary stone of boundary. Starts babbling some wild biblical stuff. Apparently thinks world will end if ordinance passes.
“do not move an ancient boundary stone” HUH? he is a pastor. here come the scripture. repent and have access to the Lord. say no to sinful behavior but say yes to those who want help. conversion to HIS way he means.
34 – “single straight christian mother” whose children are all straight; professional counselor, “affirms discrimination is alive and well” .. one client committed suicide, another (a doctor) lost job when it came out he was gay
35 – opposed, another pastor !! has a non-profit “build the family”, calls gay a choice, warns panel not to “move an ancient boundary stone”; he’s sermonizing – blech
yep, I got it Lori and all after listening to her. Just goes to show: do NOT judge by appearances.
justafarmer Says:
June 16th, 2009 at 8:34 PM
wow, we’re only up to the 120s and there were more than 300 signed up last Tuesday? I need to block out all Tuesdays for a while..
There was that “fart” noise again. Apparently was the mic being adjusted…
But last Tuesday it was DEFINITELY a fart….
just sayin…
I think they have scheduled more for tomorrow night in an effort to clear this backlog out.
Head(?) of a non profit organization called Build a Family and then says “it’s a choice”. D..khead
so this guy wants to change those poor homosexuals. this is quite the sermon.
Confused lady was actually kind of refreshing. Sounds like she’s struggling with the issue. Not sure whether Jesus would like ordinance or not. Maybe she’s saveable. Hope some gay person talks to her in the lobby afterward.
wow, we’re only up to the 120s and there were more than 300 signed up last Tuesday? I need to block out all Tuesdays for a while..
There was that “fart” noise again. Apparently was the mic being adjusted…
But last Tuesday it was DEFINITELY a fart….
just sayin…
Ok….someone just did it again……I heard it
justafarmer, not all christians are like prevo – even if they wear huge cross – a lesson to be learned by me tonight.
I found the counselor to be a very compelling speaker.
Well this lady is about a straight shooter………calm..methodical…….looks like she could shred if need be.like her.
Hello, I”m red flag man:
Chair: Resubmit in 30 days.
careful to note she is Christian as are her 3 children.
also careful to state that there IS discrimination.
historically, change is slow. ’54, Brown vs board of ed… still places where those changes are not implemented.
The lady who says she does not know anyone gay is totally confused and I might add, just a little slow.
ACLU, I think, fawnskin
Mother wearing a cross has three straight children. A professional counselor says discrimination is real. Knows child who committed suicide and gay doctor who lost job.
powerful testimony here re suicide of her patient due to discrimination – yes, discrimination is alive and well.
oh, this is a sad and heart-rending testimony
what is that yellow thingy?
but she has that yellow thingie so Prevo’s people are prolly spinning aruond in circles
oh my! look at the HUGE cross hanging off her neck!
She’s making me feel like a Dr. Dolittle Push Me-Pull You. She’s for– no she’s–she is –maybe not. Aaaahhhhh!
doesn’t think she knows anyone who is gay… I bet she does, just doesn’t realize it!
well, bless her heart. Misguided, but…
32 – red shirt, talking about gays being HIV, promiscuous, short-lived, victims of domestic abuse, deviants, “government discriminates for the good of citizens, e.g. smoking” … “Homosexuality a Public Health Disaster”
33 – another against, “I love the Lord Jesus” and [H]e wants everyone to know [H]e loves all of us, but she can’t “get to the point where she can say [Jesus] wants this to pass…”
she thinks she doesn’t know anyone who is gay? ROTFL!
Lady says Jesus loves us, even if we are all delusional. She doesn’t know what Jesus wants.
she does not know anyone who is Gay. she is full of fear, this whackjob.
booo hooooooo hooooooo.
cig. AND a swill of wine…….happy redshirt ???
It’s almost harder to be cranky towards “right” when they’re courteous about it, y’know? Well, sorta, anyway.
they have all said everything she was going to say. good. shut up them. proud sunday schoold teacher who loves the lord jesus. this breaks the heart of jesus, who loves us even if e are self-deluded – she should know about delusion. NOT IN MY COMMUNITY she says. she admits she is not jesus. duh.
This woman is saying its OK to be mean to homosexuals now cause Jeebuz will be nice to them later.
Bug -chasing……profiling……….this asswipe has got to go. quarantined ?? I’m takin’ a cig break on that one……….
alcoholism and homosexuality are similar….make me barf…
they don’t live to see age 65 (percentage given, I missed it)…
it’s not about “serving ‘the majority’ of those governed”.. but ALL, right?
Red shirt – now quoting RollingStone mag about “Bug Chasers” – transmitting diseases.
His appearance is deceiving. He looked like he could talk and research. Guess not
The lady in black says she wants statistics on how many gays were discriminated against in recent times and that if she is convinced then she just might chance her mind concerning gays.
Michael Penkin. Did he just blow his nose on the floor? He talks about disease “pandemic” Throws out stats on the # of sexual partners, oh, it just goes on. He is wearing a red shirt. He says that the ordinance will pose a health risk to the public. What a jerk.
Guys say gays are a hazard to public health like cigarettes are.
great grey, lol I did not see that.
deviant behavior causes high risk to public health. gay = aids says he.
they have 101 to 500 partners, those Gays. so, therefore, they deserve the discrimination I suppose. Gay is like smoking and alcohol, a threat to the people. health issue. Oh cripes.
ickkkkk…….need more Scotch…..
Woman asking for stats on discrimination, however, since it is currently legal, there is nothing to officially report, so there are no stats. All evidence is going to be anecdotal until this discrimination is declared illegal.
Ack! New guy citing correlation of gay lifestyle and illness, specifically AIDS. What’s the point? Is he planning to purge them?
who is this eejit with the HIV crap???
yep Lori, that’s my take on Ms. greenshirt…
now they are calling numbers & names!
30 – pink scarf, recites line from Declaration of Independence… “everyone here is worthy of being valued” … hmm..
31 – against, says protection is already there in existing law and no ‘special rights’ are needed, wants to see new discrimination data, not from the 80’s, but apologizes to gays if the church has discriminated against them because “it’s wrong” … odd
“I am not a bigot!” uh huh. needs to see stats – she does not really want to see.
Did that guy just wack a loogie on the floor? 🙂
if you are too nervous to spit it out, just sit down. we already have protection? er, no, we do not have protection – are you dim lady?
she was terrific.
oh, I love her!
she will never get to her point in time allowed
Nan Says:
June 16th, 2009 at 8:19 PM
is this one a schoolteacher or what?
all men created equal – life, liberty, pursuit of happiness…
could she talk a *little* faster?!
Very few of the folks practiced & timed what they had to say, some very surprised at just how fast 3 minutes goes by.
“every person here, every human being – is valuable…”
bless her.
she’s doing VERY well
is this one a schoolteacher or what?
all men created equal – life, liberty, pursuit of happiness…
could she talk a *little* faster?!
Gina(not Gino) was awesome.
28 – against ordinance, says more time is needed, it’s already been modified a lot; oh, he’s a pastor, uses the code words “behavioral differences” …
29 – in support, called some speech about ordinance essentially over the top; how much discrimination should be tolerated; yes, she touched on my point that even if gay was a choice, so is religion!
were they farting rainbows like the GINO?
Jeana Ashman. Supports the ordiance. The ordinance does not permit special rights. Discrimination is significant enough. It does occur and should not be tolerated.
lol, austin! I hesitatted to mention the fart noise, but this time I think it was a moving the mic noise. But glad we have a fart “sighting/hearing” again!
GA Peach,
I loved your cousin when you said she homecared her Mom!! I did it for the same reason and knowing I was better at protecting her!! As to the other — who cares – I don’t. No one else should!!!
Go CUZ!!!!
good on her for calling out distortions and hypothetical situations by red sh*ts. and for letting panel know the reddies are loud and obnoxious.
Doggonit Says:
June 16th, 2009 at 8:13 PM
Pastor wants to sit down and talk about the problems and wants time.
Another of the “lets study this till it goes away”, remember the guy last week?
she brings up a great point! too noisy outside and can’t hear their names called.
Lance – love your imagery (where are their goats tied, indeed!)
bless your sweet cousin’s heart, she sounds like an incredible person. And bless her mama’s heart, too. She raised that kid right.
Did you just hear that ?? burp or fart ?? same as last week…..
Pastor wants to sit down and talk about the problems and wants time.
and he’s not looking at a prepared statement
Thomas Davis. There are behavioral issues? WTF?
327 justafarmer Says:
June 16th, 2009 at 8:09 PM
austin, he wasn’t anywhere NEAR as silly as last week’s Borat twin, Sergei
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Yup – that’s why I said older and drunk……
good post GaPeachm thank you
ok, I like him so far
Police, fire, nurses — when you need them as you are bleeding — do you stop to ask if they’re gay??
Like the shooter at the Holocaust Museum — the 3 ambulance people were all African American. He must have hated it.
Wilson was such an intelligent young man that was well informed about discrimination againgt gays and transgenders. He came prepared with facts and researh. He did not bring gloom. doom, and fear.
another pastor, not sure where he’s coming from…yet
austin says he is gay – so what? so, he is gonna corrupt the kiddies, invade the bathrooms, spread the aids and fwck donkeys!
thankyou califpat, I just couldn’t understand what he was saying but he did indeed sound sincere.
sarah will not be allowed to substitute
26 – gay eskimo, for ordinance, speaking to dual discrimination, mentions gay friend who is in afghanistan now in military; has studies supporting fact of LGBT discrimination in workplace
27 – taking someone else’s place, turned back, no substitutions
Brenner Wilson (sp?) Difficulty of experiencing gay-bashing. His friend is in afganistan, and gay, and can be fired even after serving. Many people benefit from the services of gay people and are contributing members to the community. He talked about a study that found that 68% reported discrimination and 10-20% less income. Other stats of discrimination on the job and lesser percentage of income. Sounds like very compelling studies that he was citing to .
Very articulate , good looking young man……..comes across very informed and calmly delivers………oh , is he gay……..so what.
austin, he wasn’t anywhere NEAR as silly as last week’s Borat twin, Sergei
What is with all these Akns who openly discriminate against gays and want to be protected to do that? Waitress mentioned above and other guy who was fired from two jobs for bringing his religion into the workplace.
Two gay natives in a row. Interesting perspective on dual discrimination – both said gay issue was harder than Native.
the purple shirt reminded me of something totally OT…I sent off my purple passion swap stuff today. One of the items was purple duck tape. Wish I could have it in person in Anchorage tonight for select speakers…
OK, I’m not going to lie and say I’ve read all y’all’s posts but I’ve gotta say, this “gay” thing, I’m over it. I want to know where these idiots are tying their goats, ’cause I really do want to get their goat.
My cousin, way super smart, has her ph.d in zoology, is a college professor, drives 80 miles a day, 5 days a week, to a less than stellar position for her abilities, so that she can look after her Momma (88 years old, bedridden for the past 4 years). My precious, sacrificing cousin (when, exactly did sacrifice become a bad word?) believes that the greatest love she can give her Momma is to let her ‘live until she dies’ in her own bed, at her own time, in her own place (100 year old farmhouse) and she does this because she so loves her Momma so.
Oh, and by the way, if it matters, my cousin is ‘gayer than laughter’.
Please, dear God, protect me from those who use your Name to judge this sinner. Amen.
Sigvuld was articulate and heartfelt as he described the horrors he suffered as a gay young man.
Sergio says homosexuals have more decease.
I thought there was a Jim Carry called too.
another purple shirt. sadly a Russian accent that I’m having difficulty with
24 – blue shirt, personal recollections of discrimination as gay man, for healthy community need self-esteem (dignity), for 64
25 – red shirt, heavy slavic accent, conflating homosexuals with disease i think, his daughter was discriminated against because she didn’t want to work with gays– i think
It’s Borat’s older brother drunk on cheap Vodka……
justafarmer Says:
June 16th, 2009 at 8:02 PM
good thing I have Scotch…banging my head on the desktop after that last one…
I picked the wrong decade to sober up. If this doesn’t make me start drinking again nothing will 🙂
hey, wasn’t he already on the other night????
we had a Jimmy Stewart and now there’s a Tom Jones coming up? wow!
This washroom story must have been shared at Church. Unfortunately they didn’t figure out that too many of them were going to use the same falsehood.
Sigvuld Julionson (sp). Talks about the difficulty of being gay but is loved by God. Gays are good enough to be protected. More discrimination for being gay than being native. Need self dignity. Nice guy.
fyi – the word sh*t and the word s e x are not allowed, post will go to the tubes, lol
pass it around, justafarmer – purdy please?
love this guy. Want to hug him
overflow room is almost all red now – clapping at all the homophobia. hard to sit in here, surrounded by so many ignorant and arrogant people. toxic.
passing a tot o Scotch to Nan ~~~~
they do seem obsessed with bathrooms, those red sh*ts (my new name for them).
good thing I have Scotch…banging my head on the desktop after that last one…
I agree nan. I want that witness (security guard) – should not be hard to find who was on duty that day.
Oh for goodness sake. People go into the bathroom to pee! That’s it. What kind of perversion does Tom have that he assumes that others share his perversion.
he has a fixation with bathrooms
Hey Debbie in the red shirt: Your daughters are in more danger of your thought processes! SP Junior!
23 – another red shirt, self-described consistent voter… “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” … open homosexuals are not allowed in military; ordinance very poorly written; “can any man put on a dress and go into a women’s bathroom?” blah blah, urinals, cross-dressing, stalking, public bathrooms, fear aaarghh!
What the heck is this guy talking about the military? Doesn’t make any sense. Why are they so threatened by transsexuals? They aren’t interested in the same gender sexually. Weird.
Former military guy afraid someone might watch him pee.
justafarmer – bring more glasses!
urinals??? in women’s bathrooms???
if you do not know what the law will be READ THE LAW, moron! these are the people that vote for palin – how many are there? ignorance abounds.
My mouth drops open in disbelief everytime I hear a read shirt. Having laws which started in mid 60’s, with some amendments even in mid 90’s and civil marriage countrywide in 2005 — I’m gobsmacked of what they say.
sorry – 2 guys in a *women’s* restroom
off to the Scotch bottle….BRB…
the blonde biddy wants documentation of the discrimination – I’d ask for documentation of the two guys in a restroom.
WTF??? He’s talking about military and ROTC?????
Go Barb Clark – she’s reading a letter from the UU church and speaking as co-chair of the West High GSA. She rocks!
Opponent next to me won’t shut up – keeps trying to read passages from his Bible to me during the testimony, so I’m missing most of it. Gotta change seats. Jerk.
Thanks for all the live-blogging here.
double red shirt……..long memory and votes……move along hater…..
“if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”
It IS broke!
redshits whooping and hollerin for their kinfolk – they are gettin; riled up, this is their SEX – they are about to climax, and I hope it does not involve gunshots.
and he keeps flipping his papers
red shirt woman saying it is gonna cost…….ACLU……automatic questions…….jeopardy for family……idiot
[not everyone is stating where they are from but most say they are from anchorage]
22 – red shirt, suggests ordinance will greatly increase cost, calls ordinance liberal, takes a dig at ACLU, worried about impact on religious people and the businesses/organizations they run; talking about the “two men in drag” again in restroom, says it won’t benefit her at all, takes dig at Claman not being elected
Hidden liberals who do not vote for the majority of the city. Whew, paranoia abounds! Concerned about men in drag going into restrooms puts her daughters at risk. An attack on her 1st amendment rights and freedom of religion. What a whack job!
she is appalled, daughters in jeopardy, attack on 1st amendment rights – she IS the GINO
look at the red jacket on the man standing behind her. Call the fahionista cops!!!!
Blondie mom was kinda smug while addressing and Palin winking at ACLU guy.
nan, great minds………..
and she wants documentation!
gawd save us from the scary libruls… humpf
those “liburls” “liburls, liburls, lubruls I tell ya!!!”
oooh, she used the “liberal” word!!!
passing too quickly???? quickly????? this has been going on for decades, miss stepford wife, fake tits. she reminds me of gino.
back…….Michelle Pfeiffer on Letterman just came on and said she wasn’t sure if the people out front were for her or him.
Keyes goes on. The ordinance is essential. Because of prejudice. Anchorage has no room for such discrimination.
Michael Keyes — Lutheran minister(?) — in favor of Ordinance w/ amendments — Christians do not have monolithic view — Ordinance is about justice and equality — no special rights involved — Ordinance is essential to end prejudice and discrimination.
WOW—–all they need is Pastor Muthee to square the corners.
Lori, wish I could afford hairplugs…
I’m just a poor eastern Kentucky dirtfarmer who is heading into my second decade of menopause and loosing my hair and getting wide no matter how much exercise I do…
sigh..
Smart Lutheran says language in ordiance needs to be cleaned up – he is making good points.
21 – from Evangelical Lutheran church, in favor with modifications, says must protect gay and lesbian people; says fear and righteousness are driving forces against it; was talked down to by other ‘christians’ last meeting; ordinance is issue only of justice and equality; another well-spoken man of reason.
Lori, same here. “an issue of justice and equality…”
Michael Keyes. Wants some changes to the amendment. Protection is essential. Those opposed are driven by fear. It is just about justice and equality, not about religion. People are missing the context of protected classes.
what meeting “last night” is he talking about?
justafarmer, your hairplugs are falling out? me confused.
lol, GreatGrey! Garrison Keilor, indeed!
Could red shirt have been fired for be unqualified?
here we go, an evangelical bishop – but he favors the ordinance ith some revisions – me surprised. when I hear evangelical, I do not usually think tolerance. ummmm.
ok, this is weird, I just got a message at the top of the Mudflats page that says “Additional plugins are required to display all media on this page”.
Not gonna click on “install missing plugins” tonight…
Lutherans, Garrison Keilor would be proud.
The Unitarian is definitely a five. Applause!!!
19 – red shirt against the wording “sexual orientation” – was on probation/fired from last job because of his alleged aversion to someone else’s sexual orientation due to his strongly held religious beliefs; fired from someplace else because of his religious e-mail signature
20 – in support, reading a letter from a unitarian church minister about truth of discrimination and the falsehood of the notion that people choose to be gay, etc
She’s reading a letter from her pastor, right? Very impressive, supportive.
go Unitarian Universal – yaay
I think maybe he should have written it out beforehand…
oh, goody.
a unitarian.
love me some unitarians
Mr Anderson — wants his “right” to discriminate on the basis of his religious beliefs protected. Has been fired once … twice … hasn’t learned from either experience.
this fellow is really a weirdo.
a bit deranged me thinks.
ok.
just how was this fellow discriminated against in his last job?
Cause his employer wouldn’t tolerate his anti-gay beliefs.
again, does he have physical evidence he was “put on probation” and “fired” for religious convictions?
Oh my! he was fired from a SECOND job for religious emails????
YIKES!!!!
this red shirt is one confused puppy.
and who gave him that awful red jacket?
Ken’s red sweater was a dead give away as to where he stood.
ok.
just how was this fellow discriminated against in his last job?
good lordie…red shirt and racing stripes on his sleeves….
Ken got fired for being discriminatory, so he’s obviously against it. LOL
see the fear oozing from this red shirt guy? sad really.
Ken should have made some notes 🙂
yup Lori. And again, her physical appearance, where did she get off talking about alleged men dressed as women? I feel safe saying that because I’m also “larger than life” in my old age.
17 – telling us how God looks on us… :p … does not object to ordinance as long as it doesn’t bring detrimental consequences to others, so please don’t pass it until the consequences can be understood; says he has half his comments for, and half against
18 – in support, says it’s not too soon to deal with the issue; talking about tolerance in a good quote by GWashington; talking about emancipation of blacks. women, how long it took
Brian Clark. speaks to tolerance. Quotes to George Washington. The ideal of American values of his quotes. Principles of equality must apply to all. (citing to slavery).
so very well spoken is this fellow…
beautiful stars for him.
she said a security guard told her there was nothing he could do – ok, bring on that security guard to collaborate her story. not that the good christian lady would lie.
good point just a farmer……I suspect her story – make the little girls testify that it happened, ha.
I kinda liked him.
a purple shirt…hmmm..how to typecast… 🙂
yes, this guy is definitely trying to be moderate, middle of the road, open to discussion.
but he may be strething it here to say that they will have to teach homosexuality in schools – this is not true – they did this to us re prop 8 and it is just not true
fanskin, he is against this ordiance as written – but he does seem sincere and NOT a bigot
how did the girls KNOW they were men dressed as women and where was MOM?
I’m not snarking (much) but Mom looked a lot like the master sergeant. So I can also make a snap judgment based on looks?
It’s a fact that not all women look like that Hollywood Beauty — did she look to actually know they were men in bathroom. Her word – her story – her probably BS
Kenneth Peterson. He’s kinda funny. He wants to protect the traditional family and “constitutional rights” of religious groups. The ordinance has consequences. Don’t approve it yet, unless consequences can be avoided. He’s on the fence.
i like the yellow shirt.
he is really really trying to do the right thing as he sees it.
ok he has read it, has legit questions
if he does not know enough about this ordinance, WHY doesn’t he read it? is it not clear?? I am serious here, not being sarcastic.
i think that this fellow is sincere…
Crystal Dyson. Her 2 daughters in the bathroom when 2 guys were in the bathroom and they came out and complained. Why wasn’t she with her girls? I don’t get that.
It doesn’t ring true, especially the part about contacting security and they did nothing. There are already laws about that kind of activity, and you can bet security was on alert for some Prevocite to do that to make Jerry’s point.
@Great Grey: I’m thinking flat out blatant lie!!
yes, the bathroom story seems very convenient.
uh oh – this lady says it was her daughters in the bathroom afraid of men in there dressed as women……..men in bathrooms……well, why does everyone think this law will alllow men in omen’s bathrooms? dumbos.
[note – room has a lot of red in it now]
15 – words of doom and bad things to come if the ordinance goes into effect, talks about “lifestyle choice”
16 – another red shirt, her two daughters in bathroom at last meeting ran into two “guys” who were females (transgendered) and security wouldn’t do anything about it
oooh, a personal story about her daughters in a bathroom but just HER word…
i am sad again.
Jimmy S. What is there to sit down and talk about when you have already made up your mind that sexual orientation is a “choice” and 64 should be slapped down.
Crystal Dyson. Her 2 daughters in the bathroom when 2 guys were in the bathroom and they came out and complained. Why wasn’t she with her girls? I don’t get that.
This whole kids in the bathroom story smells of something not good, I’m thinking bad fiction.
oooh redshirt: and she’s a coach…
opposes ordiance – will cause division, will discriminate against religious rights – bad legislation -says there is another route to take insteadof having a law, can just work together as leaders – says it is offending too many people. TOO BAD SAYS ME – ever try to just not be ‘offended?”
Black shirt opposes ordinance just cause he does, nothing specific. Oh, says its divisive.
#4 who was given more time? He hung himself. Bringing in necrophilia and beastiality just put him in the whacko nutjob category.
The ordinance isn’t bad — HE IS
this fellow just wants homosexuals to go away and be quiet.
stay under their rocks.
Jimmy Stewart…a great name, but he doesn’t live up to the name.
jimmy stewart resurrects
13 – veteran, transgender, personal story about changing sex, well spoken, saying the uproar the ordinance has created is plenty of evidence that the ordinance is needed
14 – ACLU director wearing yellow badge (like others in favor), gave package to clerk of 4 cases where churches complain their rights have been taken away; offers free of charge representation to any religious who can make the case that their rights have been infringed as a result of the ordinance
5 stars for the aclu person (that is who he is right?)
ordianance will restrict right of churches – NOT TRUE says this speaker.
good points. he is ACLU I believe. he is doing good job.
and why is he wearing his tie outside of his suitcoat?
The Lady with the t-shirt who lost her job — I just wanted to give her a hug. I’m actually crying I feel so bad for her. She’s feeling totally defeated.
what’s the yellow button he’s wearing?
he has to be an attorney
this one is kissing up to panel, watch out.
and brought up a very pertinent point: trans have to live a year in the new gender before the op. And that includes bathrooms.
she was lovely and gets 5 stars also too
Rachael Renin. Very credible transexual. Explains how difficult it is to choose a restroom. “Wash my hands and get out.” And, she is a Christian.
oh, this is good!
now up: post op transexual with lots of credentials in the community. very good speaker.
there seem to be quite a few transgender ex service men in anchorage.
i wonder what the statistics are.
oooh Master Sergeant!
another landlord up – says that christains should not be forced to violate their religious beliefs. says this is a solution in search of a problem. ungly, uneccessary battle says latest red shirt.
11th – former ak state trooper, prosecutor, thinks majority will be hurt if ordinance is passed (takes a dig at the ACLU) .. weak
12th – red shirt, says gays already have rights that the ordinance seeks to give – asks if members of ‘faith community’ should be forced to give rights to gays individually because they can always find someone somewhere to take care of whatever they need
Jim is a high 5. Clap, clap, clap. Yea!!
sauerkraut, any idea how to clear the cache on a Mac?
My PC blew up last week and I haven’t got the new PC in place, so I’m on the MacMini tonight.
anyhow… letterman is on and I wanna see what he’s got to say… much as I want to show my support for the right way to be on 64, it’s depressing to read how mat-su and anchorage is filled with such anti-people aholes.
nite, peeps. keep up the good fight. do not go gently into that good night.
hey, he’s got a pretty red shirt
he likes gays but doesn’t want the ordinance?
justafarmer Says:
June 16th, 2009 at 7:22 PM
oh, he’s a tool…
His ratchet wrench only spins one way.
The Assembly president ought to step in and tell people that calling homosexuals perverts and all that garbage amounts to unacceptable hate speech. Enough of that crap already.
this guy says there is no problem in anchorage – how can he think that after hearing the landlord admit he ill not rent to gay people? now he says men went into bathroom and drove a young woman out. uh huh, right. and the gays talk about their sexual escapades. he did not make sense basically.
and he’s wearing a yellow shirt…
a bigot for sure…
oh, he’s a tool…
soon as he mentioned ACLU…
oh and now he mentions bathrooms…
That was definitely discrimination against the lady who wore the “Pride” T-shirt.
next speaker, Anchorage resident and former state trooper
For those of youse with streaming problems… try emptying your cache… or clear your history of sites visited. helps me when I am able to connect.
Barbara Seefer (sp?) talks about discrimination on her job and once she wore a t-shirt about her orientation, she was fired. They didn’t like her t-shirt that related to her sexual orientation. Someone else at work wore a t-shirt about breast implants. No issue with that.
this is a sad story, and I believe her, she is credible
this speaker wore a t-shirt thaat was not acceptable but another co-worker wore a t-shirt that said something about big breasts. jeez..
71 Canadian Neighbour Says: June 16th, 2009 at 6:24 PM
strangelet,
I noticed the ‘higher income bracket’ mention — it was a headshake and a WTH Earth to Prevo Pluto — Yo!
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Methinks this prevo dude is more interested in Uranus than in Pluto… surprised austin didn’t catch that. must be distracted by chipmunks… yeah, that’s it! a chipmunk in a red t-shirt!
oh my! t-shirts!
9th speaker – speaking to reported discrimination, giving numbers from some report; says studies have already been done, no further task force needed
10th – personal testimony about discrimination in employment due to being homosexual
5 stars for ms green and 5 stars for the assembly member who is questioning her
Another 5 and well presented and represented.
Melissa Green talks about statistics (huge) of discrimination. (while wearing what looks like a prisoner’s shirt). She asks “how much discrimination is tolerable?”
I agree Lori as to panel member.
Nice to see how some have come totally prepared to speak — and copies, CD’s.
is this mel?
8th speaker called back, saying that “separation of church and state is not part of the Constitution” – he says it prevents state from instituting religion but doesn’t prevent religion from influencing state.
justafarmer…the same thing is happening to me. The livestream keeps going out. I livestream stuff all the time and never have these problems.
I’m giving up and happily reading the commentary our fellow mudflatters are providing. Thanks everyone! Keep it coming.
He sees separation of church and state as a one way avenue?
Govt can’t do anything to churches, but churches can dork with govt?
Well then….
good on panel member! points out separation of church and state – got booed by redshirts for pointing out the facts.
weird, I’ve got it back…
the chairwoman says, “i appreciate it” after the last man spoke his hatred.
107 fawnskin mudpuppy Says: June 16th, 2009 at 6:51 PM
an army man says …
doesn’t want his apts rented to homos
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Someone ought to check and see if any of his apts are Section 8… that would put him under the federal laws and jurisdiction.
Believe as I believe or you are dead wrong!
This guy, Timothy Davis, gives so much importance to religion. Thank God they cut him off!
he is all to real, lori
7th speaker – transgender, provided documentation of her personal discrimination, saying it is not a choice to be transgender, seems to have support from some VA staff
8th speaker – another pastor (good grief how many churches are in anchorage?) talking about moral fiber talk embedded in US founding documents, quoting something which is too bad. “Sexual preference” can never compare with religion as something to be protected. Good god.
sorry power blipped and I lost my livestream (too many users).
Will try again in a little while
this one up is a pompous ass. so concerned for the christian community, religion is the prerequisite for our Constitution – he is so sure of himself and he is SO WRONG! he does not even understand our constitution at all. he is whining now, a drama king………is he for real?
he didn’t have a pure red shirt but a striped red certainly expresses his feelings.
he is sooooo wrong…this country wasn’t founded on religious grounds
what a tough life this woman has…
and i give her 5 stars and a big hug
“people want in america what they were promised”
20 hours of testimony ahead says chairwoman. wow. and if more redshirts from Valley sign up tomorrow, what then? this could go on for months.
Good, rational presentation by the Jewish speaker — even cites case law to support his view. Strong testimony.
a transgender person…i believe
@GeatGrey: I concur.
5th speaker – for the ordinance
6th speaker – red shirt, but for the ordinance – quoting court case requiring compelling state interest.. referring to state constitution, saying ‘moral integrity’ is not just cause for rejecting equal rights and reminding about necessity to protect minorities
Just jumped on. Ezekiel rocks!
oh, he’s quoting the alaska constitution…
lovely
someone on panel called him very impressive! : )
Ezekiel is so cute on the inside, I will be surprised if he does not get mobbed by the ladies (or perhaps the men, if that is what he is into). 😉
yes fawnskin, good catch.
definately a five.
infact, he gets two fives
is this guy a lawyer? he is well-spoken and cites court cases – he says “moral integrity” is NOT a basis for discrimination. he gets a 5+ from me.
This guy gets a 5 too.
oh, yeah.
a jew calling out the christians
uh oh…
this guy is wearing red under black but…..
@Fawnskin: I agree, definitely a five.
she just called 3 names, second one is melissa s. green, likely our mel green, heads up.
so many gold stars for elizabeth brant
this is completely grossssssss.
I’ll have to take a shower later.
yeeech
not asking for special rights, asking for equal rights re this speaker. all deserve dignity and respect. amen.
i’m gonna start giving stars (1-5) to my favorite speakers…
this brave women gets:
5
None of those things are sexual “orientation” – they are paraphelias.
WTF……..necrophelia……..donkeys……..this guy is outta his mind !!
Ok, when did this become a speed reading contest?
people having sex with donkeys, he is on a roll. moron.
dear god, 4th speaker saying it’s a slippery street – pedophiles and necrophiliacs and beastiality are all just “sexual orientations”
equating pedophiles with homosexuals…this is sick
Necrophillia? Is this a laundry list of Baptist fantasy land?
necrophilliacs???
now they are sexual pedophiles. me: most pedophiles are not gay!
and they are giving him extra time. wtf.
ennea…
wonderful recap
they are applauding him loudly, GOOD GRIEF
military man……..reading off lap top…….. uptight …….take a hike…..judgemental peckerhead……..can he even take a normal poop ??…….he is way uptight
1st speaker – pastor, saying this ordinance needs to be delayed to see if it is needed
2nd speaker – pregnant woman, self-described christian, for the ordinance, she will have no trouble telling her children that it is okay if other people do not act/believe as they do
3rd speaker – very fast speaking red shirt talking about how deviant homosexuals are, quoting a slew of very questionable statistics about disease, crime, etc..
4th speaker – retired us army colonel, landlord, says he’s worried about his tenants who might not want to live next door to homosexuals, conflating them with bad credit risks, drug users, unmarried couples, doesn’t want to be sued for not renting to ‘objectionable’ people
@ Fawnskin: It appears that we are far and in between up North. Just maybe we have the Palin syndrome.
here is a landlord. he rents to hetrosexual couples, militay – and they will not rent if he has a homosexual in the building…he should have a right to discriminate based on his morality. he kindly allows females and people of color, how big of him.
this is soooooo difficult to listen to.
i don’t know how long i’ll be able to hang in here.
keep tweeting the twit and don’t forget to mention the chickens and penguins who raise their families to love, not hate /sanctimonious How ’bout them great grey owls?
I did!
RT @GoldieAZ: Stop misogyny against ALL women, not just the 1 you favor politically, ALL women respected or no woman is! // even the gaiis?
BTW, when I see one of the Prevocites read from a laptop, I automatically wonder who wrote their spiel for them.
And hey, Prevo said in his letter that gaiis have generally higher income, so letting em your neighborhood would raise property values, wouldn’t it?
It’s surgery time for Brooklyn in CA ……
an army man says …
doesn’t want his apts rented to homos
this guy is talkin’ real fast……..nervous ?? suppressed ?? Oh and full of sh*t too.
hi weaver, yup at least two tornadoes, but I have to go out at crack of dawn and get photo evidence for NWS for the one closest to me.
sado-machochism! sex with boys! women in prison are lesbians! NOT NORMAL. she cut him off, time is up thank God
oh, only gays are into sado-masochism
“won’t support persecution, but still……. deviant and not normal behavior”
“They can change all the time.”
Somebody see the light switch to turn it on and off
i just need to see one afro american who is for this ordinance
red shirt now, says it is IMMORAL. perverted he says. deadly, incurable diseases too. throw in the whole enchilada dickhead.
“Mudflats admin WfAK converting a red shirt. Go WfAK!”
from Twitter. WFAK?
justafarmer – did you have actual tornados. We did not have that in Central KY, at least , not this time. Had lots of wind and rain. Our poor adopted golden has spent most of his time in the bathtub. Anyway, have an 8 EST meeting so will have to go to bed soon and catch up later.
yea, woman person
this lady is good
here is a Christian wife and mother. not a red shirt. does not wwant to tell her children that it is legal to discriminate in anchorage because of who loves each other. SHE IS GOOD.
I’m going to be really OT here, but I just heard something on the news that will be interest to the person who wrote about the skunks that were damaging property. The magic word is Skunk Whisperer, and that’s all you have to google to read about this Oklahoma Critter service. In addition to Oklahoma, they serve accounts around the country and may be able to offer a reference in the correct state.
ROTFL! good one GreatGrey!
welcome back just a farmer
Well – here we go………the more ass kissing at the beginning tells you where we are going….next.
where.do.they.come.from.
“recover from sexual disfunction??” he says his church has thousands of members? now I know how GINO got elected.
Great revision Closet Mudpup.
Justafarmer- Good your back and safe, interesting assignment.
Canadian Neighbour Says:
June 16th, 2009 at 6:38 PM
Twitter: MudflatsSee giant sign that says “Jesus is Lord of Alaska.”
Yea, but a Chinook is still the King.
Here we go, all hands on deck! this guy prays for the city, he is a pastor. first batter up.
{{sniff sniff}} I haz a sad, GoldieAZ doesn’t like us here:
I looked, yup, a bottomfeeding knuckle dragging misogynist RT @SarahPalinLinks: #spw @GreatGrey GO AWAY! Mudflats is a cesspool of vitriol.
my thought exactly, CN!
and thanks, Ennealogic, for the positive vibes!
Twitter: MudflatsSee giant sign that says “Jesus is Lord of Alaska.”
2 minutes ago from mobile web
I just jumped out of my skin when sound came on as I have it minimized!!!
justafarmer,
Great idea to throw Prevo over the edge. A pair of Mommy Chickens & the pair of male penquins!!!
@Justafarmer, glad you are back and safe. Hope the rest of your evening is calm!
oh, and the two hens are different breeds. One is a dominicker and the other is an ancona.
supper break OT that doesn’t involve tornadoes:
1) My dog Hogger is still limping but he managed to jump the backyard fence this morning, so he must be doing ok.
2) I have baby chickens!!! There are several different age batches, but I bring this up because it’s sorta peripherally relevant. There are three chicks who hatched out a couple of weeks ago and have two moms. The two hens shared the same nest the entire time, tag-teaming do to speak. Now that the babies have hatched, the two hens are very protective and don’t have a problem sharing mommy duties.
Closet Mudpup.
LOL!!!
So, during the breaks will Prevo’s Pogrom troll the library looking for books to burn?
strangelet,
I noticed the ‘higher income bracket’ mention — it was a headshake and a WTH
Earth to Prevo Pluto — Yo!
You know, I’ve been dead straight my whole life, but this “higher income bracket” concept is intriguing. Perhaps I should write for more details….
I don’t get how Prevo’s freedom of religion is threatened, unless his religion involves doing wrong to others. Nobody has the “freedom” to force others to act or think or believe as they do or else be ostracized in society. What kind of freedom is that? No one has the right to exercise a “freedom” that requires we acknowledge them as superior and anyone else as inferior.
Prevo’s ego has outgrown his shell by several measures.
Hahahah! I’m watching Greta and they’re showing the protestors at the Letterman studio. What a bunch of wackos! Reminds of of her rally people and the tea baggers. There is some lady going on and on about women. These kooks are really something.
61 Canadian Neighbour Says:
June 16th, 2009 at 6:04 PM
Anyone aware if AKM & everyone get seated? Shannyn? Gryphen? and not sure who else was able to attend.
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Last week AKM mentioned being outside and took pictures of that. Not sure of the status this week.
Lori – remind me – did we start this early last week ?? And dinner……I’m sorry , I’ve had dinner and am well into my bottle of Little Penguin Chardonnay. Did it while posting. Can’t these people multi-task ??
I’m back!
There were at least two tornadoes. I’m a severe weather spotter for NWS, so have been on the phone with them. They’ve given me an assignment to document storm damage (which apparent is really bad) when the sun comes up in the morning, so I won’t be able to stay up as late tonight as I did last week.
Last measurement on the rain gauge is 3/4 inch of rain in 35 minutes; that’s flash flood levels.
Well, I’ll admit – this was fun. Here’s Prevo’s announcement – somewhat revised…
Empowerment is a funny thing…. Never enlightens the RIGHT folks 🙂
My encouragement to ya’all from Texas.
There is no perversion in sexuality unless one party transgresses the other’s ability to choose for oneself.
All about choice and freedom to live.
Pastor Jerry Prevo probably will end up being revealed- as so many of his other self righteous bretheren, as being some sort of cheat, liar, or sex offender. All of them seem to eventually fail their flock.
Dinner break, time for Mr. Birch to lobby more. Glad you made it in this week AKM!
20 minute break – I will do same and hope to see you all later. ciao for now.
is justafarmer ok?
dinner break GROAN
Anyone aware if AKM & everyone get seated? Shannyn? Gryphen? and not sure who else was able to attend.
seattle, it is LIVE ignore date on your screen
someone should make a motion AGAIN to allow only Anchorage residents to testify. It would be priceless to see the red shirts shown the door.
Does anyone know if they bussed the kids in again? I just read Prevo’s letter and am astounded at how backassward and hateful this guy (and probably his followers) is.
I clicked on the link. Is this live or last weeks? I’m confused.
MelGreen, I look forward to your testimony and appreciate your dedication.
OmegaMom yes, I agree. Surprised they allowed testimony from the Valley Fundies, but I still think they do more to help the cause than hurt it.
Lori in Los Angeles,
“maybe if they actually read it”
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They only read the cherry picked cliff notes you use in school!!
I’m still wondering why all these NON-Anchorage folks think their opinion matters for an ANCHORAGE ordinance? Gah.
If they have enough people to testify, the discussion and vote will be postponed again…and again…and again. Which might be their strategy. At some point, the city council needs to put its collective foot down and say only Anchorage voters can testify.
Prevo: “We need to show the Assembly Members the voters of Anchorage will not tolerate this scourge.” Won’t tolerate? Won’t go with the rule of law if not in their favor? Are these people armed?
48 Lori in Los Angeles Says:
June 16th, 2009 at 5:49 PM
Prevo does not care about the titty bar?
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Oh – it’s perfect for him……a place to troll AND protest. How diabolically perfect is that ??
Prevo told them to bring a book to read, he must be slipping – did not ORDER THEM to bring the bible to read? Oops, maybe if they actually read it, they would see how Jesus really behaved and what he actually taught – love and tolerance.
I.m so glad AKM got a hold of such a letter, got to buzz it up.
Prevo does not care about the titty bar?
OMG just read the update Prevo letter to “THE RIGHTOUS!” He is something from the dark ages.
http://alaskacommons.wordpress.com/
so far at the library.
NO on the rezone on Muldoon Rd. It’s gonna be a titty bar.
now we have re-zoning talk, at least someone is concerned about something
37 Lori in Los Angeles Says:
June 16th, 2009 at 5:38 PM
farmer, grab toto and get the heck in the basement.
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If no basement……..in the bathtub with mattress or lots of blankets covering you and toto.
did you read thee update on this post- explicit hate letter from prevo the pervert reverend.
My last post didn’t pass spam filters because I had too many links. See my website, linked on my name, for where I’m liveblogging. I’m switching off between there and my twitter feed — I’m yksin — using my iPod Touch to conserve battery power. check out also the other liveblogs linked in my own liveblog — Heather James & John Aronno are sitting right next to me & are great allies, & obervant bloggers. John also has posted two sets of transcripts from last weeks testimony. That’ll keep you occupied until tonight’s testimony begins.
I don’t see it on the agenda, unless it is under “unfinished business.” Does anyone know?
Oy re the Prevo letter. Apparently those “special rights” the gays want include the right to actually speak and write English correctly.
Keep up the good work!
I’m actually switching between liveblogging at http://www.henkimaa.com/ and doing twitter at http://twitter.com/yksin on my iPod Touch — in order to conserve laptop battery power. I am sure to testify tonight. See http://www.henkimaa.com/identity/ for the reports about which I will be testifying.
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Lori in Los Angeles Says:
June 16th, 2009 at 5:31 PM
I do not see redwoodmoose on forum, does she use a different name there?
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Lori, it is redwoodmuse, not redwoodmoose…
farmer, grab toto and get the heck in the basement.
I’m shutting down adnd unplugging stuff for a while. Hope to see everyone later!
that zzzzz as not at you farmer! it was at the committee
zzzzzzzzzzzzz
crap, tornado on the ground five miles away from me…
chris birch, the one party of “no”
Sorry, that’s Lori in Los Angeles.
You betcha Lori in Lon Angeles!
be careful justafarmer. are you supposed to turn off electronics? my nephew was on computer during storn – his computer burned up in front of him.
I do not see redwoodmoose on forum, does she use a different name there?
severe thunderstorm still here (1/2 inch of rain in less than five minutes and it’s still pouring down). Lots of thunder and lightning, high winds….
hopefully it will be passed by the time the public comment starts
thanks TBNT – I will go to forum/Redwoodmoose and be back later.
califpat Says:
June 16th, 2009 at 5:07 PM
I am not very computer savvy, so what tab or window and how do I open it or them?
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What I do is right click the mouse on the link(s), one at a time of course, and click on “open new tab” you will have as many sites as you want open that you can go back and forth to by left clicking them individually …
hope that makes sense
no one wants to speak about labor contract or ANYTHING, because goodness knows, they must hate on the gays and to Hell with anything else.
Meanwhile, on Larry King – Kathy Griffin is now on and saying she would like to make fun of all Palins, “even the infant.” Oy Vey.
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1) Oh yeah, the real fun is yet to come from this blunder!
2) Levi for Governor?
3) Lori, agreed. Wet damages, burning destroys the evil with. Must burn!
OT, and very sorry, guys. redwoodmuse’s SIL is having surgery tonight and it may not turn out well. She needs support. She is on the forum.
Good going Calif. Pat! It is always easier to show it than to try to explain it in writing.
austin, they allow books? surprised red shirts are not burning them while they wait.
OT but it seems Brian the Moose’s NY Cousin was checking out the tracks today
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/31387386#31387386
Thanks all you Mudpups for your help. I was looking for those tabs and windows and my grandson came by and said, “let me show you Grandma”, and I was so surprised that it was so simple. Duh! On me. But I am streaming and able to blog at the same time. Yea!!
thanks AKM, I see red shirts in front rows now, they must have arrived earlier this time.
13 Lori in Los Angeles Says:
June 16th, 2009 at 5:16 PM
they are talking about roof repairs for the library, yawn
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Lori Lori…….you don’t want the kids reading soggy books , do ya ??
Is ANYONE getting tonight’s video? I am only getting video of a previous meeting.
Meanwhile, on Larry King – Kathy Griffin is now on and saying she would like to make fun of all Palins, “even the infant.” Oy Vey.
they are talking about roof repairs for the library, yawn
Hee, GoldieAZ doesn’t seem to like me too much. http://twitter.com/GoldieAZ/status/2199718529
califpat Says:
June 16th, 2009 at 4:59 PM
How do you tune in to the stream and blog simultaneously?
1) if your browser supports tabs, just open the sream in one tab and Mudflats in another;
2) if your browser doesn’t support tabs, just open up two browsers.
Levi says the best way to make it all go away is to stop talking about it, hear that GINO?
still no video – It opens to a June 9th session.
It’s the continuation from the June 9th meeting. So, the video is streaming live even though it looks like the date is wrong. Just checked the link and it seems to be working. AKM
so sorry to be OT, Levi is on Larry King NOW and he is talking about “the joke!”
I am not very computer savvy, so what tab or window and how do I open it or them?
califpat Says:
June 16th, 2009 at 4:59 PM
How do you tune in to the stream and blog simultaneously?
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You have to have enough bandwith too also. I, for one, do not. But I compensate for the that by stopping the telecast when there’s hate speech happening, and checking into Mudflats.
or use AKM’s link
I’m here!
Link is:
http://anchorageak.granicus.com/ViewPublisher.php?view_id=2
open the link in a new tab or window, then you can listen and blog at the same time.
How do you tune in to the stream and blog simultaneously?
Thank you AKM. I’ll round ’em up.
Here we go again, discussion now scheduled for 7 pm Alaska time/ 11 pm Eastern.