America by Heart – The Rise of the Mama Grizzlies, Part 1
To be honest, I’ve been dreading this chapter. I keep hearing little rumblings about it, and I knew it was going to make my blood pressure rise. Part 2 is the real meat of the thing, so you should be alright this time without any protective head gear. Are you ready to hear all about the fed-up mama grizzlies (aka angry sows)? Well, get your pepper spray and let’s hit the trail.
Page 127
Mama Grizzlies are not cuddly. They are “serious as a heart attack” creatures. Don’t hug them. “When the ones she loves are threatened, she rises up.” (Or if she’s really hungry, she eats them. No, I’m not kidding.)
The new generation of conservative American women politicians are like this.
Page 128
List of formidable grizzly women – Michele Bachman, Nikki Haley, Susana Martinez, and Carly Fiorinna. (What? No Christine O’Donnell?)
These women are awesome. They are doing things like building businesses. (By shipping 16,000 Hewlett Packard jobs overseas, perhaps?)
People act surprised and think that it’s a new phenomenon that smart, capable women who are pro-life and love the constitution have somehow just come into being, but they are just like pioneer frontier women who plowed fields, and milked cows and ran cattle and did other tough things while raising families at the same time.
Page 129
The only new thing about these mama grizzlies is that they are determined to take their country back before it is too late…
Women with kids would have stayed home with them in other times, but now the stakes are too high that women have no choice but to get involved in politics. (What about that “quantity time” talked about in the last chapter?)
Page 130
Moms are rising up against the “generational theft” of the debt. (Hmmm. One administration too late.)
She got lots of criticism for running for office with little kids. Some of the criticism came from conservatives who thought that she should be home and didn’t have any business being on the campaign trail with her children. BUT, the worst most awful criticism came from liberals who accused her of being a hypocrite because conservatives were supposed to believe in staying at home with kids and not having a job.
“This is why, by the way, liberals love to accuse conservatives of being hypocrites. After all, you have to have standards to be accused of violating them!” (There’s that reaching across the aisle again.)
Page 131
Women of the 1960s and 1970s got invested in the notion that women were powerless. “They were preoccupied with themselves and their frustration to the degree that they made victims of themselves.” (Hahahahaha! I love that. Read it again. How can she do it with a straight face? Victim, heal thyself.)
Page 132
Women are less into superficial power than men. Women have a unique perspective. Women are more concerned with providing for the needs of others. (Socialist!) Women appreciate the fullness of American life more than men. Women have stamina. Women can multi-task. Women can bring about consensus on tough issues. (By deriding and name calling and telling the other side they have no standards?) Women are too busy to waste time with political games and power struggles. (Whew! We’re done. Sorry guys if you’re feeling a little dumped on there.)
Page 133
Margaret Thatcher is her hero. She is super awesome and she has moxie.
Page 134
A whole page of Margaret Thatcher about spending too much money and free enterprise.
(No that picture is not to celebrate Margaret Thatcher, or spending money. It is to celebrate that we are now half-way through this “book!” Yes, I’ve been waiting, and keeping track. It’s all going to be down hill from here, I’m sure. Right? Humor me.)
Page 135
She cherishes Margaret Thatcher’s example and thinks she is a role model. She told George Bush the elder not to go “wobbly” on the Gulf War. (Mama grizzlies love spending money on war apparently.)
Liberals think that in order to be a “real woman” you need to want the government to run your life, and you need to want healthcare, and you have to want the government to curtail free speech in universities and other “liberal causes.” (A university is a “liberal cause?” Lernin’ is fer lefites!) Modern feminism is strangling us in a straight jacket of political correctness.
Liberal women label women who don’t agree with them as not “real women.” (I think you’re a real woman, Sarah. A real asinine one.)
Page 136
Most women love their families and being moms. But women in the modern feminist movement don’t like family life or the joys of motherhood.
Remember when Hillary Clinton got irritated when Bill was running for president? She said she wasn’t “some little woman standing by my man like Tammy Wynette.” She likes Hillary and admires her, but THAT was just too much. She came across as “frozen in an attitude of 1960s-era bra burning militancy.” (How does she even remember what an attitude of the 1960s was like? I think she was 7 when they ended. Did they have a giant bra burning in Skagway?)
Hillary looked down on women who wanted to stay home and bake cookies.
Page 137
Women’s groups are mystified by the mama grizzlies. In 2008, “left-wing feminists didn’t know what to make of an Alaskan chick out on the campaign trail talking about the Second Amendment, kids (the more the merrier!), and America’s urgent need for greater security through energy independence.” (We didn’t know what to make about the fact that John McCain actually picked you.)
Feminist and media elites are out of touch with American women. They don’t speak for most women, only a very super left-wing narrow liberal fringe. “The bad news for them – and the good news for America – is that the country as a whole is waking up to this fraud.” These women don’t have our best interest at heart.
Page 138
The empress isn’t wearing any clothes. Big quote about how women are fed-up.
I was going to take a little intermission at the half-way point, but since we have about 20 pages of this chapter to go, I’ll wait until then to take a small breather. I hope you don’t mind. It’s just that the idiocy is piling up faster than it can get through my brain and I think I’m starting to experience some kind of log jam of cognitive dissonance in the grey matter. I found this handy cognitive dissonance flow chart which tells me the way to reduce it is by “changing to remove unpleasant arousal,” so I’m going to assume that this flow chart knows what it’s talking about since I found it on Google. Until tomorrow…
Hey ‘flatters, thanks for the conversations. AKM, thank you for providing this sane space for the intellectually curious. Sarah is an idiot dangerously.
It’s too bad we only have two genders and the Twit ended up with mine. Had she been a male Twit instead, I think she’d be…well…hmmmm…just like Joe Miller!
Here’s what the Russian press says about Sarah.
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/30-11-2010/115998-spankin_sarah-0/
Real Presidential hopefuls publish weighty tomes that explain their politics, and wold view, show that they understand world politics, military and economic matters, etc.
Sarah publishes another hate fest.
Of course she has not read any other previous serious candidates statement paper so she can’t even fake out a weighty tome.
Back to Molly Ivins description of Bush I. “Deep down inside he is really shallow.” There is nothing in her that is not negative.
My mother…well, the less said the better.
My grandmother (on my father’s side), however, was a woman I am proud to emulate. She escaped the incoming Soviet threat in Ukraine hidden in a hay wagon, and made her way to Europe where she boarded a boat, alone, at 14 years of age to come to the US. She met and married my grandfather in Brooklyn where they started a family and, a few years later moved to a farm on Long Island. My grandfather was able to learn English by bringing his produce to market, but my grandmother spent all of her time on the farm or with Ukrainian friends. Determined as she was to master the language of her new country, she allowed her children to speak only English at home so that she could learn it herself. She eventually taught herself to not only speak English but to read and write it as well (quite a challenge since it was a different alphabet than she knew). Her oldest son was killed in WWII and my grandfather died a slow, painful death from cancer in his spine. Still, she kept the family and the farm together and thriving.
I remember her best as an old woman, bent from arthritis and dressed in black in mourning for her lost son and husband. Despite all she had been through, she maintained a wonderful sense of humor and delighted me as a child with stories of the family. Although she never had a job off of the farm, she worked hard all of her life and was one of the most compassionate and loving people I have ever known. She would never have considered herself a feminist, but her life was proof that a woman is no less capable than a man, and has the strength to persevere despite overwhelming circumstances. She would have had no respect for a woman like Sarah Palin.
we are all so lucky for the strong and beautiful women in our lives who have been our role models. i will be forever grateful to my mother, grandmothers, and great grandmothers, as well as many aunts and friends of the family who have cared enough to share their lives with me and offer me some guidance now and then. this book disintegrates when i think of their love and power as good, compassionate women.
WOW….! Thank you for sharing that…..a role model for all ages…all cultures….palin disgraces herself by comparison. It’s taking me longer and longer to read the comments at mudflats….they are all so thought-provoking…with links to check out- to keep us informed–as well as HUMBLE ….to honor those who have endured so much and broke the trail for others…! I love and honor you all, you enrich my life by speaking from your heart, and I learn….WE learn, from one another.. Thank you.
…And this right here folks, is why I left the Republican Party, in 2008.
“They were preoccupied with themselves and their frustration to the degree that they made victims of themselves.” (Hahahahaha! I love that. Read it again. How can she do it with a straight face? Victim, heal thyself.)
I <3 AKM.
I’m positive AKM has read more of this book than anyone in the world at this point.
At least of sane people.
lol! let’s hope it doesn’t dampen her holidays.
Last week I watched (for the 20th time) The American President with Michael Douglas. At the end of the movie he makes a speech about his snarky opponent Bob Rumson.
I listened to it and the likeness to what Palin is all about, was uncanny:
“Bob’s problem is that he can’t sell it! We have serious problems to solve, and we need serious people to solve them. And whatever your particular problem is, I promise you, Bob Rumson is not the least bit interested in solving it. He is interested in two things and two things only: making you afraid of it and telling you who’s to blame for it. That, ladies and gentlemen, is how you win elections. You gather a group of middle-aged, middle-class, middle-income voters who remember with longing an easier time, and you talk to them about family and American values and character. And wave an old photo of the President’s girlfriend and you scream about patriotism and you tell them, she’s to blame for their lot in life, and you go on television and you call her a whore.
In Palin’s case, instead of a photo, it’s anything she disagrees with. ANYTHING she doesn’t approve of is anti American, anti women, anti everything.
First off: Hurrah for mudpups!!! Sisters and brothers all!
Secondly, we all need to take deep breath and sit back and look at this tome for what it is. That would be called PANDERING. She is pandering to her base and throwing out every piece of red meat that she can wrap her claws around (butcher stores must have empty shelves). This book was not written for us. She knows that we will not buy it, nor read it. She is not trying to convince liberal, progressive minded people of anything. She is probably deriving some sick satisfaction out of our outrage though.
Look and see Princess Divider for what she is. She is the attack dog that the right depends upon to do their bidding and rile up the base. That is all that she is. That was her job during the 2008 campaign and, unfortunately, she discovered that she was good at it so why quit? It is an added benefit that she can profit from it.
I am not sure that she really believes this drivel that oozes from her lips/fingers. But she knows her base and she knows that they feed off of it. What is sad to me is that there are women out there who, for some reason, feel disenfranchised for choosing to be mothers. Who made them feel that way? I chose NOT to have children (for many reasons) and I do not go around cutting other women down for having them. If you can “have it all” and be the “superwoman” of her apparent fantasies I would really like to know how that is done. I don’t want to have to work that hard (2 “full-time” jobs??? How’s that working out for your family?). I don’t multi-task that well. And I do not know one successful woman (married or single) who doesn’t have some regrets about not being able to give her children enough of their time. I do know successful women who (with a lot of outside support) put their careers aside for a time to raise their kids because that was top priority. I also know women who don’t want their children to run to the daddy when they are frightened or hurt. They want to be the primary caregiver and nurturer. But I digress.
The key to the Princess is her followers. What do they find in these ramblings that make them feel good about themselves? She’s feeding them at an emotional level. Some of it is the anti-choice rhetoric and the whole “family values” spew fits in well with these folks. Her religious stuff is soap-box, corner preacher stuff. ‘Our religion is the only religion and that makes us the best!’ Her throwing it all out as conservative vs liberal is just more emotional appeal to the ‘them vs us’. We can’t understand it because it isn’t written about us, nor for us.
She is outing herself for the whole world to see. She should have waited to put this book out there until she announced her campaign (but then she couldn’t have made money off of it and we all know that that is her primary goal). She is snarky and nasty and divisive and revisionist. And that sells. I don’t think that it sells to the majority when it comes to voting. It certainly doesn’t sell to the majority of women (some who might even have been willing to give her the benefit of the doubt the last go around because they wanted to see a woman in the White House). Who wants a catty panderer in the White House? She has insulted the majority of the women who might have backed her (she was big with the over 50 crowd remember?). See it as the pandering that it is and relax and enjoy the humor in all of this.
I will say one thing: she is not a grizzly but she is an “exceptional” panderer. Maybe we should call her a Panda Bear? Nope, too cute.
thank you for your voice of reason and this mental/emotional time out. i suppose we get this upset because her voice has become so prominent – we can choose not to buy her book, not to watch all the tv shows she and family are on, but we can’t get away from the fact that she is being used to poison our national dialogue in a way that is further dumbing down our country. she seems to me more like a hydra – you cut of one head, and two more grow back.
but you are very right about this book and its in/significance. it was written for her base and will only serve to make them fatter while it turns more women on the fence about her away.
In the 60’s I was working for a large corporation and was the “first” to wear a pantsuit to work. It caused alot of hullabaloo from the “male management.” And, my friends, that clothing statement was progressive in the 60’s. So many restrictions were placed on women. I find it hard to believe that she thinks she knows half of what she speaks or writes. My bad…she doesn’t.
The title of this book should really be, “Americans I Loathe – Reflections on How Many Demographics I Have Yet to Alienate.”
I cannot bear to read it myself, so … a gracious bow and deep thanks to AKM, for trudging through it for us.
On the topic of women though: I joined the Air Force in ’65 when I was just 18. My first stop was Travis AFB in Texas, for basic schooling on being an airman (nobody called us airwomen although I do remember being called a WAF). The bus dropped us off near the social center of the base, a combination beer bar and bowling alley. I entered the place, duffel bag in tow, and ordered a beer (3.2 beer is what they served, more like water really!). A fellow airman at the next stool moved closer to ask, “So which are you?”
Confused by the question, I asked him to explain what he meant. He sneered, “You’re a female in the military. That means you are either a dyke or a nympho. Which one are you?” Set back by both his vulgarity and his insinuations, I think I stammered, “Uhhh, neither…” but will never forget that moment in that dingy bar. It helped me understand, for the first time in my young life, how rocky the road ahead would be.
Eventually I got married, had children and raised a family. I worked at regular jobs as soon as I was able after each birth. Over time, I gained employment as a President of both a non-profit and later a for-profit corporation. Later yet I schooled myself in information technology and continue to work as a systems engineer to this day. Somehow I ended up as a liberal… 🙂
I met a lot of women along the way. Sarah Palin, I know real women. Sarah Palin, you are not a real woman.
Ah yes, “Alienation Nation”
This book should just be called A Freeper’s Reflections on Faith, Family, and Flag.
Hey – mouth wide open – that’s the only resemblance, Twit! Well I’ll give you the big piles of poo as a second marker.
You don’t get to co-opt the bear, sorry (not). Once a Twit, always a Twit, and never a bear will you be.
if i were her, i wouldn’t piss off the spirit of the alskan grizzly. maybe that’s why she hides in her fox studio and in the lower 48 so much.
Her book is #2, better call Putin. Her ego will be flying over their airspace.
probably because the koch brothers and her pac bought up most of the copies. the turnout has been pretty low considering last year’s figures.
And this load of tripe from the same witch who said on the 2008 campaign trail, “there’s a special place in Hell reserved for women who don’t support other women.”
How anyone can take her seriously just boggles the mind.
What REALLY pisses me of is her suggestion that liberal women do not love their children, do not care about family, have ‘no values’ and aren’t successful as working mothers. HOW DARE SHE MAKE THOSE ACCUSATIONS!!!!! She’s alienated her largest potential base…women of any party other than her little Holly Hobby tea party pals.
And then from page 127
“Women with kids would have stayed home with them in other times, but now the stakes are too high that women have no choice but to get involved in politics.”
In WHAT other times? Is she now suggesting that she’s a trailblazin’ woman in politics??? The fact that most women in politics are democrats might suggest something to her. But I hope too much.
she is just making an excuse for herself and her self-aggrandizing career.
Wow, this is something, I must say I am complete agreement with your posts.
Sarah Palin, I am going to include Bristol Palin for she is becoming more like her mother everyday.
Deceit and fraud and the lack of any skills except lie, create nothing but racists and she loves the media, Why else does she call herself the victim,
DWTS think they really pulled a good one over the public, but alas, Sarah Palin was the freak show and Bristol exploited herself and showed the world just how stupid and lack of being herself. ITS THE MONEY THEY ARE MAKING, they could care less what we think, as long as we are stupid enough to fill her bank account that is all that matters.
Sarah and Bristol Palin are dancing to their own tune of deceit, if a person gets that upset over the fact that Bristol was kept on DWTS and shot his TV, one can only think, there are many who feel the same way.
Sarah Palin is evil, and has no intention of stopping this scam.
I think we all need to go to the book stores and elsewhere and turn the book face down maybe they would get the message, Sarah Palin you are a fraud.
To think that Bristol made $345,000 dollars approx on DWTS why would she want to finish education , Her spokesman fees are $35,000 gosh you would think she was the first girl that ever had a child out of wedlock. What a joke, THIS SENDS A VERY WRONG MESSAGE TO YOUNG PEOPLE, ITS OK TO DO DRUGS, HAVE SEX
AND THEN SCAM THE PUBLIC.
Maybe we should all wear a black ribbon stating Sarah Palin is the kiss of death to the US.
Boycott her, stop the money flow, flood her FB with questions , She hides behind the mask of deceit.
Sarah Palin, John McCain, lost the election, THANK GOD.
Black Ribbon worn to tell the world we are sick of Sarah Palin.
Problem with flooding her facebook…once you make an ‘unacceptable’ comment (which is anything other that ‘oooo Sawah, I wuv woo’) you are blocked from making any further comments.
I agree, you are right, the problem will exist as long as Sarah gets the money.
She hides behind her FB to keep from answering questions it would also pin her down and that is something she does not want.
She is brave when someone else writes her books, and FB , Sarah has to know that people are getting fed up with her face its been since 2008 I know I am sick of her. To think we have almost another two years ahead of us.
I often wonder, who would even want to be on the same ticket with her. She is so stupid anyone on the same ticket and party will face the public outcry of her polices that she would want. Its her way and she will not listen. I think she has the idea that her winky winky and her smug coy school girl act and her short skirts is going to make her a president.
America and the Tea Party, they cannot be that stupid?????????
Sarah does not seem to want to accept the idea that she is not being crowned miss USA God forbid, we would be suffer and pay dearly.
Black ribbon
As long as those who are willing to pay her she will remain , STOP THE MONEY FLOW.
Train wreck is just around the corner and there is no signal.
yes, you are blocked, but be sure to unfan her as well so she doesn’t number you amongst her minions. i was blocked within 10 minutes – boy they are fast.
The Washington Post has an article by Kathleen Kennedy Townsend regarding Palin’s book. In it she rakes her over the coals on a number of areas I found interesting.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/03/AR2010120303209.html
Wow! That was worth the read. It should be made viral for all of the religious nuts (who have no notion of how they are being used and abused by the real right) to read and consider carefully their wishes and allegiances.
Right now, this is the most-read article on Washington Post’s website. Grand.
Excellent!
In the 1960’s Sarah Barracuda would have to play basketball outside in the snow. I do have to say Sarah-grizzly must have written this book; no ghost writer could be so lame. I would guess the only thing the ghost writer did was to complete the sentences and remove made up words. Too
Sarah-eptitious that writer was truly a ghost.
i like that new word – it could catch on!
I keep trying to read the chapters but I manage to get less further into the post with chapter. I can’t stand her tripe anymore. Huge kudos to you, Jeanne, for allowing her garbage into your head and surviving.
Wow, there are some other reviews of her book out today and they aren’t good. I’ll post them on the open thread as some discuss different chapters.
How could they be good. Not only is everything a straw man or just a lie, it really isn’t a book but some facebook rants.
You know these people are pissed that they will never get that torture from he11 hour back!
i don’t see how the majority of the reviews could be anything but harsh. this is only good for starting fires in my woodstove (though i prefer birch bark so as sarah doesn’t possess my woodstove).
Again it always astounds me to hear that the people and party that eshews family values are so eager to go into foreign lands and kill their families, over what exactly….the party that hates abortions have no problems eliminating their own and other already born children in the futile made up wars that we are plagued with for the benefit of the defense industry, enriching the few, devastating the many. The heartless manipulation of fear in American’s interests…what have we become? Time we all stood up to this yammering and say, enough!
Thank you for saying that so well…
Ok, so I have been reading these chapters. And it just got the best of me. Here is what just happened:
I was as Sam’s club looking at the large selection of books. I saw Palin’s face on the cover. The display was 6 tiered high and one book in width, maybe 8-10 books per tier. I turned the facing book on every tier to the back so that her face was no longer visible.
It was naughty, and not nice, but after reading what’s in the book, I just had to do it.
No one will find her book if they are looking for her mug shot on the cover……I have had enough of her.
There. Confession is good for the soul.
Yesterday someone else posted that they went to turn over some books but someone else beat them there!! So you are not alone in being naughty, and Santa will forgive you!
In MY bookstore, the display scared itself with its reflection in the window and all the books turned themselves over!
lol! too much.
Thanks, MUYS, I really, really needed to hear that. All is not lost.
you are saving impressionable minds from poison, and are keeping others who also get high blood pressure from the thought of whatzername in good health. it’s all good as i see it.
yesterday Jimzmum posted this. my point in bringing this forward is to say that though Palin fancies herself as unique she is anything but. there are millions of mentally defective people wandering around this beautiful earth. Quite a few of whom sit their sorry rear ends in the Congress and who make laws and spend the people’s treasure on everything but the people. Palin wears a human face but she is anything but:
jimzmumNo Gravatar says:
December 2, 2010 at 5:44 AM
Here is a list of symptoms. I think this is quite telling.
* Persistent lying or stealing
* Apparent lack of remorse[3] or empathy for others
* Cruelty to animals[4]
* Poor behavioral controls — expressions of irritability, annoyance, impatience, threats, aggression, and verbal abuse; inadequate control of anger and temper
* A history of childhood conduct disorder
* Recurring difficulties with the law
* Promiscuity
* Tendency to violate the boundaries and rights of others
* Aggressive, often violent behavior; prone to getting involved in fights
* Inability to tolerate boredom
* Disregard for right and wrong
* Poor or abusive relationships
* Irresponsible work behavior
* Disregard for safety
Between the most common characteristics of the TPA they find the absence of empathy and remorse, also a vision of the distorted autoesteem, a constant search of new sensations (that can come to unusual ends), the dehumanisation of the victim or the lack of worry to the consequences. The egocentrismo, the megalomania, the lack of responsibility, the extroversion, the excess of hedonism, high places levels of impulsiveness, or the motivation for experiencing sensations of control and being able also are very common. This type of psychosis does not relate to assaults of panic or to schizophrenia. [1]
Source: Wiki
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anything but a mother
anything but a loving wife
anything but a human being
yikes, scary stuff. they walk among us. and they twitter, apparently
And they reproduce. They vote too, and also.
And they’re mostly republicans..!
I received a request in the mail for a charitable donation to the Gleaners Food Bank Of S.E. Michigan.
I thought I’d check them out by googling charities and one of the sites returned was Charity Navigator.
It listed the top 10 with four star ratings, four stars being the best at fiscal excellence.
To quote the site “To be successful, organizations must be high performers consistently, year after year.”
Looks like those “elitists of higher learning” she likes to disparage are willing to help to the unfortunate.
And yes, Gleaners of S.E. Michigan is recommended with four stars.
Suck it up Sarah!
They’re an excellent organization. I’ve made my holiday donation, and friends of mine are regular volunteers there. And we’re all university-graduatin’ elitist snobs!
I hope that in the second half of the book, Mrs. Palin talks about the bill she introduced that would have legalized shooting bears from helicopters and planes. Also, how her Board of Game allows mama grizzlies and their cubs to be snared and killed near McGrath.
Maybe in one episode they gas some baby wolves in their dens! Piper can throw in the bomb!!
Conservative women love their children – Liberal women resent their children. This goes right up there with her other lies:
Conservatives are Patriots – Liberals are Socialists;
Conservatives love freedom – Liberals hate freedom;
Conservatives are moral – Liberals are trying to turn the USA in to a modern day Sodom.
Conservatives work for a living – Liberals are lazy and want handouts.
Just because you keep saying it Sarah, doesn’t make it so! FWIW, I’ve seen alley cats that are better mothers than Sarah Palin.
How can she think she can be the president of the UNITED states of America when she considers at least half of us to be unfit for basically anything?
i think she plans on outsourcing us to china. along with all the media except for fox and a few other conservative outlets.
***Hillary looked down on women who wanted to stay home and bake cookies.***
Like $arah ever spent that much time in the kitchen without a camera crew filming.
NO, Hillary did NOT look down on other women. She was upset that “neanderthals” were saying she should not be as active as she was in her husband’s administration. That SHE should be home making cookies when she had always had a big career before.
She gets NOTHING correct because she wants to lie.
i remember that quote and how boorish people were to hillary, and i was only in high school then. you’d think sarah would have gotten it right, but then she rewrites history to suit her fancy.
I may not have thought much of Hillary during the primaries but she is doing great at her new job and even back than I never took her saying she would not stay home and bake cookies as a put down to or about anyone..I just figured she wanted to work with her husband.Ms palin knows not what she talks about. I hope her put down of Hillary Clinton turns the few that may have turned to palin because she is a female off and made the realize what a fraud the woman was and is.I wonder if the ladies from the view read this book and if they might have something to say about it.even her one supporter on the view Elizabeth H said she was wrong and that’s the second time she has dissed palin.I think she is learning the hard way.This last thing was about the overweight children and palin said the children should be allowed to eat what they wanted. forgetting not all children have a parent pack their lunch.
Please allow me to vent, so I can get it off my shoulders and get back to work without scaring people. I’m someone Ms. Palin would despire: a liberal, a first-wave feminist, and someone who has proudly been never a wife or a mother. I knew from childhood I never wanted kids. I wanted the right to be myself and to function as a free, responsible citizen in society. I would’ve been a dreadful mother: frustrated, angry, and impatient. Had that been the only choice open to me, I would’ve ended up an alcoholic or with severe depression. (Hmm, just like my own mother, but I digress.) And even though I would’ve made a rotten wife and mother, I have made a fairly decent social worker, legal investigator, and community advocate. I had the CHOICE, something Sarah is denying her own kids and would seek to deny the rest of us. I don’t look down on mothers who devote many years to raising their kids. (In fact, I wish Palin would stay home and try it!) It’s something that requires more patience and dedication and love than I ever could’ve mustered. But I wanted something else, and the feminist principles my friends and I fought for allowed me that.
My point (and I do have one) is that the world requires the best from every one of us. We all have the right to DO our best, as we see fit and not be governed by what various sectors of society feel is right for us.
Mag, I also made the choice not to be a Mother for many of the same reasons as your own. In the end, we all do the best we can do — to be criticized for individual choice does not fit my idea of Freedom.
mag, sounds like you put a lot of thought and heart into your decision. as socrates is recorded as saying, “the unexamined life is not worth living for a human being.” good for you for listening to your own mind and heart and embracing who you are. this windbag sarah’s “book” means nothing in comparison to the good work you have done, i am sure.
Bless your heart, and thank you- for the work you have done to help others….god knows they need an advocate. If only others were as wise–to know their own hearts…..it would be a better world for all.
How many chapters are there to this thing?
One too many.
🙂
akm deserves some tlc during and after this process. maybe we could all donate a little for a day at the spa? luckily, the only copy of the book that i can find near me is over an hour’s drive away. i love fake america!
She is way behind the times. I have always been a liberal Democrat, and started working at my job before I was married in 1950. I continued to work at the same job , after I was married– All thru the time I had my children. There were people who thought that women should stay at home with their children. I had a Govt job, and campaigned for my boss when his term was up. We kept winning, and I kept working. Not easy—-raising children , working, and keeping up with things at home–school & etc.
What I saw with some of my non-working friends, that they used a lot of time playing bridge, golf and shopping.
I spent my lunch hour, picking kids up from school, bringing them home for lunch, and taking them back to school. As you can figure, I ate on the run.
It could be that I had a mother who was my role model. She worked in the family business.
Sooooooo, miss quittypants—–I can draw circles around you.
Good for you Lacy Lady! You did what it took and then some.
i’ll say lacy lady! good for you!
Where were all the relatives to dump the kids on? that is the only reason they aren’t all drug addicts by now.
I know how hard it is to do all of those things—working moms are real HEROES for their families. I admire you very much, and you have my respect.
I do appreciate your reading this book so I don’t have to. It’s clear Palin has nothing new or original to say. There is an awfully large group of people in this country that think exactly as she does, contradictions and all. She’s just regurgitating their prevailing views and they are apparently happy to throw their money her way for doing it. Maybe reinforcement makes them feel powerful or right. It sure helps explain how she can get away with stringing together senseless phrases in a “speech” or interview though. “Reality” is really quite different for them. It’s frighteningly Orwellian. Things that make my head spin, like espousing the virtues of DWTS and her daughter’s hard work on the show while at the same time her presence in the finals being due to voting fraud, doesn’t even register as off kilter with these people. Remarkable. I have to wonder if this is indicative of the values being taught in her churches. Warped.
And the irony is that the states with the most people who like her have the worst social problems, teen pg, STDs, domestic violence, ill-health and poverty.
Oops, AND highest divorce rates.
It’s always been interesting to me how a discriminated group that decides to fight for their rights is quickly labeled ‘angry’ as if that’s a very bad thing. We have the angry black man, the angry feminist, etc. But when the majority gets upset that they might have to share some of their ‘God-given’ position with the little people, they rise up with Justified Anger to reclaim what is ‘rightfully’ theirs.
If I had to put up with much of what was common for women of my mother’s generation, I’d be angry and damn proud of it. Limpbag and his ilk are quick to label anyone who fights for their rights as xxxx-Nazis. But when someone fights for a conservative cause, they are Patriots, defending the good old Amurican way.
Lack of empathy for someone outside your own position seems to be a common trait of conservatives.
the founding fathers warned of this problem, calling it the “tyranny of the majority.” the supreme court and lower courts are supposed to keep minority groups from this tyranny by allowing them to appeal to the courts for their constitutional rights. you never hear conservatives talk about this, though.
Guess who loves the constitution!
lol! i never thought it was up for question until this past year when the meme that “liberals” hate the constitution and find it imperfect enough to want to change it was passed around. dummies, the founding fathers deliberately left room for amendments, of which we have quite a few, including the beloved 2nd. as far as interpretation goes, how can you even have a debate with people who take every word of the constitution literally, just like many fundie’s read the bible literally. how dull to see the world in only black and white, how limiting, and how authoritarian.
Limpbag! 🙂
Great points!
Sarah Palin has no idea what women have gone through and are still dealing with. The year that she was born my own mother was still unable to secure any sort of job because she was pregnant with my younger sister. In 1957, the year I was born, the first time she showed up at her job at a little dress store while wearing a maternity smock, she was fired on the spot. Does anyone here who went to school in the fifties, sixties, and even the seventies, remember having a pregnant teacher ?!
Thanks to our sisters and a few of our brothers, women have the right to vote- but it’s not even been a hundred years! Thanks to our sisters and a few of our brothers we can and do have the right to work while pregnant. Likewise, we have our own bank accounts now, our own cars, our own college degrees, our own mortgages and insurance. We have control or our own bodies and reproductive organs.
If a husband beats his wife, he gets taken to jail and it’s no longer incumbent upon his wife to have him arrested- it used to be the wife had to ask the police to arrest him when they showed up at the scene.
Sarah Palin only cares that Sarah Palin has what she wants and is both clueless and disinterested in the millions of women who worked, suffered and fought for her to have what she wants. She disgusts me on so many levels.
Thanks for saying that!
Women, all women except her religious nutters, should be offended by this chapter.
Not all women have control over their lives. People like Sarah are still forbidding lesbians to love and marry each other and, in some places, to raise their own children.
I hope I live long enough to see people just be allowed to be who they are, love and be loved according to their hearts, and be measured by their character not by the color of their skin or their sexual orientation. That said, I am not naive enough to believe any of us will ever live long enough to see people accepted for who they rather than how big or small their bank accounts are. Still, hopefully, we will grow past the issues that define us that are outside our control.
“Does anyone here who went to school in the fifties, sixties, and even the seventies, remember having a pregnant teacher ?!”
I went to a Catholic elementary school so that REALLY would have been a problem!
(Of course, back in the late 60s, the nuns’ habits covered everything except their face and hands so a LOT of things could have been hidden underneath besides their rosary beads.)
Oh, the days of the Catholic burka(sp) when we did not know what that word even meant. We were so innocent, ignorant, and hoodwinked, and to some degree bamboozled. Education is a wonderful thing for those who are intellectually curious. Poor Sarah Palin, only cookies count.
My second grade teacher didn’t come back after Christmas vacation, as it was then known. That was a real boon to us. She was nasty. I thought she was the wicked witch of the West–really. While I knew that couldn’t really be true, the likeness was too striking. Wish I’d thought of trying to melt her! I felt sorry for her baby though. Our student teacher took over the class. She was really nice.
I am old enough to remember all of that..
American Women, Mama Grizzlies, Feminists, Media Elites, Liberal Fringe — $he makes it sound like a civil war! What happened to Freedom? Once again, this is all a very divisive and hypocritical stance. Be who you want to be but only if you are like Me. This concept rises (or lowers itself) to Authoritarianism, not Democracy.
I could say so much about people [please know that I include both men and women here] who advocate Strong Families, choose to breed large families, and then prioritize their life in such a manner that places their children in a secondary position. If you want it all, DECLARE that you want it all and don’t be hypocritical about it. There will be sacrifices — some of those sacrifices will undoubtedly be your unchaperoned children making bad choices. Does $P recognize this? — I can’t tell, with all her attacks, twists and turns. All I see is a whining nutcase who just wants to tell people how to think and behave, moment by moment. I’d sure hate to be one of her children — maybe that’s saying it all!
I’m not sure if I hit the Logic Button on my last paragraph. Perhaps $P is spreading confusion more than anything else! Meltdown… better make another pot of coffee!
It’s been my experience that people who want to control other people can’t control themselves.
you made perfect sense to me. what sarah palin is selling as the perfect life for a woman (she has said that there is no reason why women can’t pursue school, a career, marriage, and children ALL AT ONCE!, even though she didn’t exactly tackle it this way) is an unreachable goal. when you aspire to have everything – kids, career, fame, money, power, etc., etc. – you will fall short in many if not all of these aspirations. you can’t do everything perfectly. if sarah had really done what she said she was going to do during her quitter speech – leave for the good of her family and to actively promote the good of her state without a title – i would have had a modicum of respect for her. i still would have disrespected the quitting, but at least she would have kept her word and not proved herself a liar for her reasons for quitting. but even before the speech , she had set in motion her self-promotion, and her intent to get even with everyone she felt had crossed her, seemingly ever. how this an benefit er children, i have no idea. their acting out speaks as loud as their facebook bullying. i do feel sorry for them, although as they become adults, they can choose whether to get away from the madness or stay – not so easy when you are bribed with fame, money, guilt, and excessive cookies.
Anyone notice her book jacket says “family, faith, and flag,” but there’s no family on the cover, no sign of faith, only all that flag kitsch. Guess family and faith really don’t rate all that well.
Good points. Family and faith require work. Hanging a flag around yourself in whatever form doesn’t.
priorities!
AKM- How do you read this dreck? Much less interpret it.
“Hillary looked down on women who wanted to stay home and bake cookies.”
But now they can’t stay home and bake cookies even if they wanted to, they have to get out there and run for office. Even if it means less quantity time with their kids, right? Right? Interesting that these women all found the where with all to run for office during the Bush administration. They didn’t quite feel the need during the Clinton years. I guess life was just too good then. Of course, we didn’t have a deficit then and the economy was working pretty well.
I know that there is a half of this chapter that remains to be described. But, Sarah has already missed the point of the Womens Movement from the ’60’s and ’70’s, equal pay for equal work. I can remember a time when only a few women went to medical school, law school or dental school. When they did, they had to work twice as hard to gain half of the acceptance. Women had an equally hard time rising about the level of the steno pool or secretary’s desk in the business community. Sexual harassment on the job was another thing that women had to bear silently, or lose their job. In recent years, women were admitted to military schools and faced that same kind of harassment. Women who worked for American private contractors in Iraq reported brutal treatment. In the US, women have had the right to vote less than 100 years.
Sarah would like to get big government off our backs and out of our lives, except when it comes to womens reproductive health. That is not an issue between a woman and her doctor; big government is right in there telling her what procedures she may not consider.
Exactly! And Brava! Well Said!
Title IX was as much about access to higher learning as it was about equality in women’s sports.
I wonder what Palin thinks about women in the military having to give up quantity time with their kids when they deploy overseas?
Maybe we will find out when that daughter enlists following in the tracks of her older brother. Or maybe she just join because she wants to be honored (and loved) because of her military creds by the Supreme Sow.
Sandra Day O’Connor likes to tell kids about how she was forced to be a legal secretary after completing law school and passing the bar. Bet as a famous conservative, she’d love to sit Sarah down and explain what it was like “back in the day” and how Sarah should be thanking other women, not denigrating any of them.
sdoc truly had common sense!
I am pretty close to the same age as Palin and I experienced sexism and sex discrimination at numerous times in my college and work career. Those experiences shaped my feminism and shaped the way I raised my two children–1 boy and 1 girl. I had college professors try to treat me like some mindless bit of fluff when I was generally the top performer in their classrooms. I had the college dean try to tank my application to grad school all the while saying to my face he was writing me a good letter of recommendation. I experienced blatant sexual harrassment from three of my bosses and multiple male colleagues until I finally got sick of it, took my clients and started my own company. I had an abusive husband which I left and thrived with my two children. Palin makes me sick. There is still a need for women to stand together and stand up for their rights and for their children’s rights, and she denigrates it every chance she gets. Of all my accomplishments I, as a (gasp) liberal, feminist woman am most proud of my motherhood, which has produced 2 incredibly accomplished (gasp) liberal, feminist kids.
“kids (the more the merrier!)”
I’d love to see her, or any conservative for that matter, add a bit to say the more the merrier, assuming the parents can emotionally and financially support the kids.
I have seven children (ha ha, beat you, Sarah)…and I am a liberal. I have a professional career and so does my HUSBAND of–gasp–30 years!)
How can I exist? Am I an anomaly of nature?
Or is Sarah just full of crap?
I love multiple choice questions! I’ll go with C. Sarah is just full of crap.
I am so sorry for your children, you know, the ones you hate being a mommy for. Must be hard for them, just like my poor 8 year old daughter that I just can’t stand coming home to.
good for you – i do believe that sarah knows there are women out there just like you – she just can’t stand the fact. congrats on your successes.
Mama Grizzlies are not cuddly. They are “serious as a heart attack” creatures. Don’t hug them.
Hmm, maybe this explains her relationship with Todd and kids. They are afraid of her.
Very possibly it does. I recall that photo I saw from her (as Gryphen calls it) “Sarah Palin Sees Alaska for the First Time” show where she and Bristol are standing together looking to the viewer’s right while standing on a beach of some lake. Sarah has her left arm over the shoulder of Bristol’s left shoulder and Sarah’s hand is clenched in a fist. Sarah had an unpleasant expression on her face.
I swear, the first thought that popped into my head when I saw that photo was “OMG, Sarah is going to to put a headlock on Bristol and snap her neck for having embarrassed her in 200.” There was nothing cuddly about Sarah’s body language. I wanted to yell “watch out, Bristol!” but I guess it is a little late for that, huh?
er – in 2008.
saw the same photo – had the same fight or flight response. i feel badly for her kids.
Exactly!
She has no idea what women went through before feminism pushed for women’s right.
In education alone, think about the best colleges that were all male and did not allow women. Think about Title 9, that allowed parity for women sports.
Or access to birth control even for married women. Abortion, even she admits she thought about it.
She is the worst kind of woman in my opinion, because she does not value what women before her went through. She criticizes feminism, because she thinks it makes women weak, but in reality, it gave women choices. It was not perfect, but it was a start.
Does she really think she could be a working/politician mother without other women fighting for that right? Doesn’t she understand that 20-30 years ago, her own evangelical religion would have scorned her for being a working mother, that she would not have risen to where she is today without the fight of others?
Her ignorance is astounding. That she gets paid to write a book that influences so many is frightening.
SHE has mentioned Title IX, bet she says now she is no longer for that.
Frankly, I don’t think her book influences many people at all. It’s too circular in content and probably brings about as many scowls as it does nods! This book may be our salvation. You can breathe again!
Ok I finally had to join. I have been reading but never commented, but this one made me punch my computer and I am usually so calm. Especially the comment about the women of the 60″s and 70’s. Sorry sarah, but the women of the 60’s and 70’s are the ones who discovered their power and paved the way for some of the women you mentioned. (we never envisioned someone like you)
I’m glad you joined. She does get one’s dander up!
Welcome to the mud, roadrunner! meep! meep!
hahahacaw Caw CAW!
birds (and other critters) for sanity, we are, eh?
🙂
welcome!
she has a way about her, doesn’t she?!? don’t let her ruin your computer, though – not worth it! ;o)
“Most women love their families and being moms. But women in the modern feminist movement don’t like family life or the joys of motherhood.”
I find this paraphrase to be one of the most offensive of many very offensive accusations that the mother of all angry sows has made in this book. she has implied it many times in previous chapters, but now she just comes right out and says it: conservative women love moms and children and their families more and are the ones who have their best interest at heart, unlike those barren, icy liberal women who put careers, their own political ideals, veggie sprouts, and bill maher before children and families. again she insinuates that it is the job of women to become mothers. no offense against mothers – most of us women want to have children at some point in our lives, whether we are able to or not. i suppose she hasn’t noticed either that most of the women in congress and the senate, conservative, liberal, and all in between, are moms and wives. yes, there are a couple of “radical supreme court judges” who “suspiciously” (they must be lesbians, oh my, oh my!) have no progeny. according to sarah, such women do not have the best interests of our families at heart. in order to prove that you are fit to serve as a woman politician, you must have more kids than you can handle, stand by and watch and then cover up each of their scandals, and shamelessly use them as props to show how wonderful conservative families, and especially conservative moms are. especially this particular conservative mom. maybe if i had sarah’s low iq and disdain of knowledge and real hard work, i would have to stand behind a litter of strangely named children, also, too, because i don’t have any other accomplishments to speak of, or even the speaking ability to speak of them.
whew, ok, rant over. i just know so many accomplished women in this world who may or may not have wanted to have kids, but who sacrificed that right so they could give their full attention and mothering, if you will, to an issue or a group of people in need, or a beautiful career in the arts, etc., etc we can balance things and have seemingly everything, but we can’t do that everything perfectly. something has to give. to pretend that you can raise a big and young family, work for faux news, reality shows, “write books”, twitter and blackberry away all day, give terrible speeches for exorbitant fees, run a nefarious pac, secretly get together a team to help you run for pres, and then run for pres seamlessly, without any adverse effect on your family, or your “work life” is perhaps the biggest lie sarah palin regularly tells. and to act like hers is the model life because she is a conservative mom and politician, hear her roar, is just offensive to every other woman out there doing her best with what she’s been given. but alas, sarah’s narcissism will never let her see past the romantic image she has constructed of herself. i am really starting to believe that even she believes it.
I apologize, GranneKathleen, you said so many wonderful things just now, that I feel badly admitting that my favorite sentence was ” . . . maybe if i had sarah’s low iq and disdain of knowledge and real hard work, i would have to stand behind a litter of strangely named children, also, too, because i don’t have any other accomplishments to speak of, or even the speaking ability to speak of them.”
That is going with me throughout the rest of the day and if I read or hear something else about Sarah, I will remember your words and be able to laugh at her more easily. Thanks.
my pleasure!
Great rant! Maybe this piece of crap book will finally piss off enough women, who already don’t like her.
I know mostly liberals and they all want to get married and I have helped many women with advice for infertility problems because they want to be mothers too.
Where the hell does she get off saying crap like this?!
Women need to get on TV and tell her to STFU and take care of her out of control kids.
heartily agreed! as akm says, “victim, heal thyself.”
i believe much of this hate towards women who should otherwise be her sisters comes from her inferiority complex about her intelligence especially, which we have seen time and time again – the katie couric interviews and their aftermath are the best example. she seems to fear and loathe women who are more intelligent and accomplished than she is. i wonder if it was a rude awakening for her when the majority of female hillary supporters backed obama instead of the team with the individual with genitals matching their own. she seems to have had a very insular existence before being tapped for vp, which is astonishing since she was governor of the largest sized state in the union. encountering and meeting accomplished and professional women from all over the political spectrum whose job it was to advise her, prepare her, handle her, interview her, criticize her, interpret her (thanks akm!), etc., etc. must have been a very rude awakening. so instead of opening her mind and heart to a world of diverse women as sisters, she played the victim of sexism while simultaneously putting herself and those who emulate her on a pedestal above all other females as the bestest women mommy patriots in america, who also happen to be unpredictable carnivores. even though i will be the first to admit that sarah has provided the country with some comedic gold, i believe she has done more harm than inadvertent good (except for maybe ripping open a gaping wound in the gop). her divisiveness and her poisoning of the dialogue about important issues, which was magnified and brought center stage by the press because she sells “news,” has hurt our country at a very fragile, make or break time. imagine how different the last two years would have been if she had either shut it or really actually tried to work across the aisle (even though she has no job in government anymore!). i look forward to the day that she is reduced to just another batty voice in politics, or better yet, to the day that she puts her family first, as she advocates, and goes home to be the mom she says she is.
I also found that remark extremely offensive. How dare she. As regards motherhood, she is a very poor example.
I would bet a $1,000 dollars that she has never breastfed any of her children. All that malarky on the campaign trail about getting up in the middle of the night to use a breast pump. Sarah, you don’t need to do that if you are with *your* baby. You just feed him. You only use a breast pump when you are not there with your child.
I’m not dissing anyone who has not breastfed…..I just hate how she lies about these sorts of things.
you never saw her feed trig in AK news or on the campaign trail – it was always her other kids or todd. i seriously doubt she was dealing with the pain of breasts full of milk during her long absences from trig on the campaign trail. of all the kids, he is the one whom i hope she at least breastfed for a month or so since he already has health issues. i hate to be judgmental about it, too, but sharing knowledge is how other women learn that breastfeeding is the best option for a baby.
For someone who claims to be such an epitome of sacred motherhood, she sure has been quick to allow other people to raise her children, leave them essentially on their own to get into all sorts of trouble, use them as props to attract more media attention or protect her from criticism, place them in extreme danger just prior to birth (and boast about it), and abandon them immediately after surgery when a photo op on the other side of the country sounded more enticing.
Her three oldest have all had serious difficulties, Piper is headed rapidly in that direction with even less time spent in the relative stability of a school setting than her siblings (and look how they turned out!), and poor Trig is all but deserted except for the rare occasion when he is hauled out in front of the public for a picture.
Devoted mother my @ss!
Thank you…..that was wonderful and truthful and honest……and appreciated.
What is this fixation she has about cookies?
I remember Barbara Walters would ask “what kind of a tree would you be?”.
Maybe next time she interviews mama grizzy she’ll ask “what kind of cookie would you be, and why?”
maybe rocky road — mushy with marshmallows for brains and chunks of stuff thrown in willy-nilly, easy to make and as cheap as you want to make it. No one can ever tell exactly what it’s made of – such a hodge-podge and never fully baked.
sorry – feeling really snarky after this last installment of her senseless drivel.
I was thinking rocky road too!
no, no, no!!!! I have a lovely recipe for rocky road cookies and there is no way that wahoo has all the beautiful distinct and discrete ingredients which combined in proper measure and baked just so turn out a confection to die for…
maybe, maybe, just maybe whatzername might maybe be sorta like the cheapo mass produced pale cousins big business turns out by the bazillions… maybe…
nah- she’s just a chump. that’s all.
I think that she is a vanilla oreo. Full of cream that looks good but is the equivalent of eating lard.
Sorry to ruin Oreos for everyone.
A “ding-dong”, but I guess that;s not really a cookie. Still fits, though.
A blamey whinehouse pageant winner: Misfortune Cookie.
Give her a sash and a tiara.
No. Sash and push op bra.
I like it ~ op ~ as in operative
“push op bra”, yeah, that’s what Fox Murdoch, owner of Harper Collins, WSJ etc…sells
She’s a rhymes-with-tube. Helen Philpot would say it.
I just finished making snickerdoodles. I think she’d be a whackadoodle!
Barbara Walters used ti be a very good interviewer she asked the hard questions,now she has lost it she let miss quitty pants walk all over her,
Poor lil’ Sarah was rewarded with cookies for her goodies–that’s why Sarah is fixated on cookies. It is part of her survival.
SPIFOS alert! Sarah Palin is full of Shit!
everything she says about liberals is true of her
i don’t know how you’re doing it AKM
i can barely stand it, just reading your synopsis (do you think SPIFOS knows what synopsis is?)
i love you guys who come here…..it lets me know that the world has not turned upside-down.
i can’t bear being in a world with SPIFOS and her bots, but what choice is there?
we can’t just ignore her, can we?
Queen Quitty left at least one name off her list of formidable, mama grizzlies. That would be Steve King-5th district Iowa Rethuglican who has a brain and mouth that are completely out of phase. Reminds me of early Japanese Kung Fu movies where the lips move and about half an hour later you hear the words. Akm many thanks to you for transcribing this stuff into Human English so I can get a handle on it. You Rock!
I love Iowa….!
Critical thinking usually can be put into two categories.
Linear thinking: solving a problem by going from one step to another step by means that can be clearly seen or explained.
Lateral thinking: creatively solving a problem by an indirect steps that can not always be clearly seen or explained.
Now we have:
Palin think’n: creating problems by steps with NO connections except the static between Palin’s ears.
bravo: perhaps she is a new human subspecies. glad we threw that idea of progress in evolution ou the window long ago, because she would cause many a scientist to scratch his or her head.
oh sarah, it is ok that women become scientists, isn’t it?
No. Unless it is in the Bible, preferably the Old Testament, no.
Yes, only if I’m told that moneyed gentle tea people tell me that I should say ‘yes, because they’ll give me more money.’ Rill scientists who agree with me, male or female, are right.
we’ve always had the latter… she’s just this time-and-place’s poster child for it
Plato’s Allegory of the Caves examined the same phenomenon over 2000 years ago…
she’s the boob sitting with her back to the fire which casts shadows of herself and others on the wall before her… and she has no compunction about pronouncing the shadows as all the reality there is…
she’s nothing new… particularly irritating… but nothing new…
. . . and getting older all the time, hehe. I, ahem, meant her message is getting old – yeah, of course I did, only that and nothing more. hehe.
Best analysis yet!
I must admit to being puzzled by the obsession with Mama Grizzlies as role models. Yes, they are magnificent animals, and while they fiercely inclined to fiercely defend their own cubs, they are at best indifferent and at worst down right hostile to the cubs of other Mama Grizzlies. They’re also a tad indiscriminate in judging what constitutes a threat to their cubs: a man setting steel traps or carrying a heavy gun is indistinguishable in the eyes of a Mama Grizzlie from a hiker or trail biker. The down side of this is when Mama takes out a hiker or trail biker, their puny hairless friends get together to hunt down and kill Mama, making he defense of her cubs somewhat moot and short lived.
Mama Grizzlies are also single moms. Papa Grizzlie is completely out of the picture after finishing the act that leads to conception. Of course, this is understandable because Papa thinks of the kids as snack food.
I’ll take the bitches of the liberal, communal wolf pack any day. All the cubs are theirs.
Love what you wrote. I don’t think there has been anyone I have ever disliked more than Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman. Neither one serve any purpose whatsoever. Let’s start a liberal female wolf pack club.
good one we could surround them and take them all down LOL
Count me in……!
I must admit to being puzzled by the obsession with Mama Grizzlies as role models. Yes, they are magnificent animals, and while they fiercely inclined to fiercely defend their own cubs, they are at best indifferent and at worst down right hostile to the cubs of other Mama Grizzlies. They’re also a tad indiscriminate in judging what constitutes a threat to their cubs: a man setting steel traps or carrying a heavy gun is indistinguishable in the eyes of a Mama Grizzlie from a hiker or trail biker. The down side of this is when Mama takes out a hiker or trail biker, their puny hairless friends get together to hunt down and kill Mama, making he defense of her cubs somewhat moot and short lived.
Mama Grizzlies are also single moms. Papa Grizzlie is completely out of the picture after finishing the act that leads to conception. Of course, this is understandable because Papa thinks of the kids as snack food.
I’ll take the bitches of the liberal, communal wolf pack any day.
“Liberals think that in order to be a “real woman” you need to want the government to run your life, and you need to want healthcare….”
I have news for this mama grizzly woman – the liberals that want health care for every man, woman, & child HAVE insurance. At a huge event in my area when the health care bill was being discussed they asked how many of us had insurance – every hand was raised.
We don’t want it for ourselves you stupid woman we want it for those people who can’t afford it, who couldn’t get it for pre-existing conditions, etc.
Yes, I guess this makes me a bleeding heart liberal. What does this make her though? Someone who would step over a dying child in the street? Someone who would watch a family suffer because their child was dying because they couldn’t afford the treatment the child so desperately needed?
God this woman needs to get out more. Perhaps she has been so sheltered that she just really has NO clueOR because she feels she didn’t get “special” treatment so no one else should either? Because health care is “special” treatment ya know.
which her family did get because todd is native. before that, they just jumped the border.
Yes, we who have insurance want it for those people who can’t afford it, etc. for humanitarian reasons. But in purely practical terms, our own insurance would cost us much less if we weren’t subsidizing those who don’t have insurance. We subsidize them through taxes (Medicare, Medicaid, VA) and also though paying higher premiums for private insurance. I personally would rather that everyone had insurance (or better yet, single payer) because the providers need to even out the revenue and so the burden is shared. The truth is — and the Palins and tea partiers will never understand this — is that ultimately we all pay for everybody. The fly in the ointment is the 20% or so in overhead and profits that we all pay through the private health insurance system. Palin is protecting those who reap the profits of suffering at the expense of everyone else.
IMo palin and her bots don’t care about those with out insurance.I think they would just as soon they suffer and die.If ya read their comments the are downright nasty and after seeing what palin wrote and how her bots buy what she says I can see why they are so nasty.
To me it just kind of boils down to “what kind of society do I want?” I remember years ago being shocked to see homeless persons America – now it’s a common sight. Compassion and practicality are good reasons to be in favor of universal health care. But I also don’t want our country turned into a ruthless, “dog eat dog”, you’re either rich or desperately poor, third world type nation.
How am I going to break the news to my daughter and husband that I hate them? How do I tell my daughter that I hate being a mother?
I am a liberal so it must be true.
If we let her define the terms of engagement we WILL be stuck with that silly narrow “truth”…
🙂
Life is bigger, richer, and profoundly more rewarding and scary than that lil patch o crap she wants us to live on…
I’m stepping off her stained rumpled mat..
join me?
amen, sister! i was never on her rumpled mat to begin with – just an observer and an informer to anyone else who is hoodwinked by winky and will listen to reason.
Oh, yes indeed, you will never want for company on this!
lol! how beyond ridiculous does that sound? do you think sarah even knows any “liberals”? i thought we stopped calling ourselves that about 10 years ago, anyway!
i’m sure you are a stellar women – you are here aren’t you?
Hey Miss Wasilla: Do you still believe in Title IX? You know, the 70s equality for women in sports participation in schools thing? You did once.
Love someone to ask her that.
Me, too.
she wouldn’t know what the heck you were asking and would say that she’ll look it up and get right back to ya’.
“Title IX…Is that Y. A. Title’s grandson?”
You know she was a “sport’s” journalist, don’t cheha know.
It’s coming…
HEY!
Everyone- buck up!
This is whatzername doing her lil divide-o thingy!
Machiavelli was slick with his suck-up-to-the-dark-side of human nature stuff- you have to address a lot of it from a dissection of devices of style and diagramming of use of logical fallacies…
with ole whatzername it’s just all there in the open…
like when my dogs get in the cat box and then barf the kitty-rocas up on the carpet…
Dear whatzername-
you are a joke.
yes, you are harnessing uninspected and unexamined anger of folks who feel powerless with this horsepunky, but hon, seriously, the gals who wiggle their fannies and flutter their mascaraed eyelashes whilst blathering about what women do or know better than men… well, they are a joke.
not a mystery… a joke.
our problems as people and women will not be addressed by building up nor maintaining artificial barriers to understanding…
keeping up the dialogue, in your own uniquely stupid public voice, that boils down to “Most women love their families and being moms. But women in the modern feminist movement don’t like family life or the joys of motherhood” …
hmmm…
pretending that the so-called modern feminist movement is a tiny fringe leftie- group whilst maintaining you are the voice of real feminism whilst assuming you speak for most women while putting down a huge number of American women in the middle of a tortured logic which allowed you to put your family second because you put them first…
LOL hon!
nice try…
pffft
pffffttt
pffftttttttt
When you thank my grandmothers, my mother, and me, meaningfully for the roads we cut, levelled, and paved that you might waltz into the big time on … well, then maybe we can talk … til then… pffft.
Bravo, Alaska Pi. I recently watched the Wizard of Oz. Oz wasn’t real either, and whatzername has carved herself an image that is in polar opposition to her own reality. Crappy parent is only on the table here because she has used it (Mama Grizzly) over and over again. No.
She’s trying desperately to define and limit the terms of engagement at solely emotional and religious levels.
The mama-grizzly thingy is just a Today rendition of Schafly in a nastier package. Neither one of them has a clue what the broader experience of women in America or anywhere else is… they both live in tidy Oz’ looking out on a world they can’t understand…
whatzername doesn’t know what feminism is, nor what humanism is for that matter.
Zoe Baird torched my shorts with her thoughtless exploitation of her nanny’s position in society as it did so many others. The Rs exploited that righeous indignation to flay Mr Clinton for that AG pick. whatzername is trying to do her own lil rendition of the same.
Women and men of America – it’s time to say all together “pffffftttt, whatzername!”
and get back to work on fixing stuff without her useless input on our problems…
As Leonard on The Big Bang Theory might say, “Ba-zinga!” You nailed it, Alaska Pi – actually hit the ball out of the park and then some when you said Sarah is just the most current ” . . . rendition of Schafly in a nastier package.’
Do-dah! Well done.
And Anita Bryant the orange juice queen.
Joining the world-wide mudflats choir in a rousing chorus:
“pffffftttt, whatzername!” *fist-bump with Alaska Pi*
Home from a loverly day at my library, “fixing stuff without her useless input.”
The candles are ready to light, and we have raspberry-filled donuts dusted with powdered sugar for dessert. I am the Queen of dreidel, but no competition from LittleBird this year since she’s still away at college…
DH Happy poured me a large goblet of wine, and is making kitchen magic…his beef stew with carrots, ‘shrooms, taters, onions and wine is starting to smell divine.
Ahhhh.
Welcome to the weekend!
L’Chaim!
raspberry filled donuts?…
oh my…
I was pretty jazzed about setting off for First Friday/ Gallery Walk here in a bit.
There’s a gentle snow falling, there will be hot cider and carols and lots of people to chat with and…
raspberry filled donuts…?
there won’t be any raspberry filled donuts…
sigh…
say some extra pfffftttsss! whilst eating them , please?
raspberries will make the chorus all the sweeter 🙂
“we have raspberry-filled donuts dusted with powdered sugar for dessert.”
Ohhhhhhh…those sound even better than the apple-filled ones! Yum!!
whew-hoo! amen, alsaka pi! you said it way better than i did. as a young thirty something, i thank you and all your foremothers and my foremothers for their brave and often thankless work in making it a better place within our society for women. obviously, there is still much work to be done.
i send sarah a quadruple pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft in your honor!
Amen to that, Sista! Thanks for putting it so succinctly!
So Sarah can add to her list of haters any woman from the 60s and 70s who worked so hard (because they REFUSED to be victimized) for gender equality.
I am SO tired of Sarah and her ilk saying “liberals want this, liberals want that” when the other half of the sentence is not something liberals want at all. I never knew a liberal who “wanted the government to run their life” (hello? pro-choice?) or who “wants the government to curtail free speech in universities”. WTF is she talking about?
I think she’s talking about the big flap at CSU and/or Ann Coulter who wasn’t allowed to speak at University of Ottawa in Canada in May.
Hey, AKM – someone who was a GWB and Huckabee operative in Iowa agrees with you:
He said of Sarah’s book tour stop: “You have to talk about issues at some point.”
Well, all I want to say to him is this – don’t hold your breath. You could turn blue and drop over before she does that.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/12/01/palins-intentions-questioned-as-she-heads-back-to-iowa/
She ran for Governor of Alaska without ever talking about the issues. She just wore her naughty monkey outfits in a place that boasts 10 good men for every woman. That worked.
I remember her run for governor. She talked and talked, but had no specifics, just like now. She was mean then, too, making sarcastic comments about her opponents in debates. Of course they were gentlemen and didn’t return in kind.
She knows how to take full advantage.
Did you notice the polar bear pin she frequently wears in that picture, which is the logo for the AIP? Somebody has to know what she is really up to.
I watched a short video on you tube a couple of years ago when this all started, and I can’t find it now. It was Clyde somebody talking at a meeting of a group of maybe eight people around a table. He said that Sarah had been a member of the AIP, but had to quit to become a Republican when she ran for mayor. It could not have been more authentic.
I found the link about Sarah belonging to the AIP. Starts about 5.55. And the guy’s name is Dexter. Sorry. 😉 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NK2sFJebGc
This is just another lie, but a serious one since she supported, and I would guess, still supports the secession of Alaska.
My mother worked full time and raised 4 children in the 60’s and 70’s. She got married young, should have divorced young, but stayed together “for the children” <—— always a bad decision IMHO. My mother would take offense at someone telling her that she was a victim and couldn't do it all. She did, and then began a new career in her early 40's…. at a prison. I'd like to see my 72 year-old mother give a nice little smack down on Mrs. Palin. And believe me, she could do it.
“They were preoccupied with themselves and their frustration to the degree that they made victims of themselves.”
I think this specific quote is more of a revelation with regard to Palin's OWN mother than to any woman I have ever met that lived, worked, mothered and spoused in the 60's. After all, she is the Queen of Projection.
Again PROJECTION.
SHE makes a victim of herself every damn day.
Sorry – couldn’t resist sharing what I think are remarks that should disqualify Mitt for the presidency based upon poor judgment and/or the ability to lie through his pearly whites.
He said the following about Palin on The Tonight Show: “She’s a remarkable, energetic, powerful figure in my party — and attractive too,” Romney said. “She’s a qualified, capable person.”
Yeah, right, Mitt.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/02/mitt-romney-tonight-show_n_791018.html
Mitt has a history of saying whatever he needs to say at the moment. Principles do not factor in. He changes like the wind. For whatever reason, he is not taking her on right now.
Didn’t I read where he tied his dog to the top of his vehicle,or was that a slam by his republican opponents during the primaries?
I read too that many places. The pet lovers were beyond outraged! Mitt was taking his family on vacation, short on room in the vehicle, so he tied the dog’s crate (with dog inside) on top of the roof for the long trip.
I’ve never heard anyone debunk the story either. You would NEVER catch me voting for that guy EVER!
She’ll walk all over Mitt with those naughty red monkeys if he keeps that up. “And attractive too”?? There’s a backdoor sexist statement. Watch out Mitt, she’s settin’ you up in this book because you are Mormon so therefore not a rill umercan. To say nothing of your “mandation” for healthcare in Mass.
So, explain this, Sarah. If you are so hot, so ready for a run for the Presidency, how is it that Michelle Bachmann can raise more money than you?
Are her shoes sexier? Are her skirts shorter? She is arguably crazier than you – but only by a smidgen.
So, Sarah, you are not winning the “hot Republican woman” crown after all. Once a runner-up, always a runner-up, eh?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/03/michele-bachmann-fundraising_n_791327.html
Ouch!
But $P can just say it’s all about being the “point guard” bringing the ball up the court.
Plus she has her own “Reality” Show! whereas MB is just another one of those beltway insiders.
i get so frustrated at the way the word liberal is dropped over and over as if it’s a dirty word. i am happy to be a liberal, a feminist, a mother, an american – i just don’t think she should keep on insisting that we are some sort of alien “other” and be able to get away with that. “Women can bring about consensus on tough issues.” i assume that is a paraphrase of one of palin’s statements in the book. consensus will never come about with demagogues like palin fouling the public discourse.
When you take an “I want” stance, consensus and discourse tend to go right down the toilet — at least this has been my experience.
..You can’t fix Stupid…… GGaaakkkk!!!
My sentiments exactly!
Whimper. Here I am again. Of all the things that piss me off about the crap she spews, her projection of “what liberals” think might be the most piss-offiest. Or maybe it’s her very twisted and upside-down views (can’t really call them views) on the nature of the women’s movement and its results.
I’m just a couple of years older than she is. My recollection of my education (in li-brul Mass.) was that it wasn’t until high school and college that individual role models (not a media projection of bra-burners) began to affect my consciousness about what was and what could be for women. Did SP have no one at any of her five colleges who provided an example?
Of course, I also had a mother who, despite raising six children, had her own dreams, and fulfilled them by returning in the 1970’s to elementary teaching career she had given up in the 1940’s when she started having kids. Feminism was, at times, angry, and carried the “you can be anything you want” theme to many, if not most women of my generation. It was never about entitlement- more like an awakening that you really didn’t have to settle for fetching the boss’s coffee (or worse) for a few years before you retired to have a family.
How she can spin FAIRNESS into “entitlement” and “selfishness” is truly beyond me. Of course, I only went to one college, but every academic woman I ever encountered who inspired me in regard to women’s issues was positive, unapologetic, and wonderful. I almost feel sorry for her. Almost.
I agree with you, Husky.
Sarah Palin never had to bear the brunt of being a woman in pre-feminist America. She didn’t have to stand in the snow for days as my mother did just to get a job in a factory so she could support me after divorcing her husband who had become a violent drunk. She didn’t have to endure taunts about her breasts as she tried to focus on just doing her job in a man’s world. She didn’t have to fight off advances by her supervisors, worrying all the while if by doing so she’d lose the only decent wage job she could get. No, Sarah is the one who has lived a life of entitlement – made easier by women such as my mother and millions of other women who worked to provide for their families in conditions none of us would tolerate now. Who the H-double-hockey sticks does she think is railing against Real Women who really did put family first and endured humiliation day after day and threats to their physical safety just so their kids could have food, clothes, and a decent future. Grrrh – my own claws come out when Sarah starts her nonsense.
er ” . . . who does she think she is . . .”
Well, we know — she thinks she is Queen of the North come to teach us all how to be real women. Ack!!!!
Your mothers personal experiences are exactly what the equality movement was all about, and in the real world would be an eye opener for the likes of Sarah. She needs to see your story and the million more like it of our parents generation. And she insinuates in earlier chapters that racism is a figment of black America’s imagination, yet this morning was a headline of some Aryan Nation idiot and his KKK snowman with a noose in its hand. Sarah has a very twisted view of what happened in the 60’s and 70’s, why it happened, and the results of it all.
As she babbles oh-so-knowingly about things that happened before her time, she shows what an ignorant infant she really is.
Thanks for that! She has no idea and doesn’t want to know the truth.
I was a proud charter subscriber to MS. Magazine when I was in junior high!
Thanks to YOUR mama I had a door to the trades open to me and for her I helped change the way we see job discrimination and harassment.
Thanks to my MY ma I had the education to step out of low paying jobs to support my family after I shoved the violent drunk out the door…
For her I helped push open the door for girls to be accepted more openly in studies of science…
And thanks to my grandmothers I had the pure cussed determination to run right up over the top and past those who thought I couldn’t stay the course
and I’m hoping I live long enough to finish singing my grammys’ tales to MY grands that we can continue to carry the fight forward…
My (married) cousin was fired as an executive secretary because she was pregnant. And this was less than 40 years ago. There was no “liberal” or “conservative” about it, it’s just how women were treated. But of course Scarah is clueless, as always.
Have to add something here – back in those days when applying for a job they could actually ask if you were pregnant or wanting to have children. Amazing to reflect on it.
Well-done…thank you….!
While working for a large utility company in my 20’s, before “sexual harassment” was a public term, I would go home in tears because of the rude and crude advances from a much older, married male employee.
Luckily for me my female supervisor, who saw that I was upset, was sympathetic. The man was thereafter banned from the “women’s” breakroom. Only because she cared – not because there was a law.
Sorry, I meant to add that that was in the mid 70’s.
Husky-please be careful revealing important details of your life. Rethuglicans and tea-baggers will accuse you of being responsible for foisting the Kennedys of the world on Conservatives heads. You know,guilty by association. I am proud to be labeled a Liberal,albeit an Independent Liberal. I am surrounded by RWNJ Evangelical fundamentalist,whackjobs. I come to the Mudflats to regain some perspective on life.
Of all the things that piss me off about the crap she spews, her projection of “what liberals” think might be the most piss-offiest.
I agree. I still want to know, AKM, does Sarah Palin even once actually cite a real quote to back up her assertions? “Liberals think this” and “liberals hate this” and “liberals believe the other” – not one quote?
This is the part that pisses me off the most too! Does she EVER cite any sources? If so, they’re probably all conservatives spins written within the last 15-20 years.
She will occasionally cite a liberal when she tells us what we think. Betty Friedan was quoted once in a previous chapter… But for the most part it’s unsubstatiated generalizations.
Guess Sarah isn’t paying the ghostwriter enough to do citations, footnotes or a bibliography.
Husky, you came back! Good for you.
Just some thoughts on your comments:
Many families were large prior to the 70’s so the raising of children was a no-brainer. Typically, the woman stayed home and the husband was the bread winner. I think a couple of things happened to bring about feminism: 1) women began to lean toward opportunities out of the home and 2) having more than 2 or 3 children became unfashionable. I agree that this was like an awakening, but anger and hostility was certainly part of the phenomenal transitions over the last few decades, eventually settling into more positive societal outcomes. Finally, a woman did not have to be apologetic for wanting more than being a mother.
As I state down below, I don’t know where $P stands on feminism. Isn’t feminism just a matter of options? She seems to agree that a woman can do it all. Yet, she blasts “liberal” women for wanting something different than her and/or having different causes. Clearly (if there is a Clearly), Freedom exists in only one place — her Mind (if there is a Mind)!
I don’t disagree with you, but another factor in the 1970s was the economy. It became very difficult for a single breadwinner to sustain a family. Many women went to work because of financial necessity. Many of those women found that they liked it, and wanted to continue to grow in this way. But money was a real factor back then in the rise of the women’s movement. Some historians say that the rise of women in the workforce led to higher divorce rates, but the reverse is also true. The higher divorce rate led to more women in the workforce, both from choice and from necessity.
Sarah mind = the space where an evolved brain / thinking apparatus could occupy
” having more than 2 or 3 children became unfashionable.”
Having less children became more of an option with the development of the pill.
That was cool that your Mom did that–raising six children and then going back to school..? Incredible…!
She’s not a bear and her so called baby bears are not excused for bad behavior because of the bear framing. Raising a bunch a kids is not an accomplishment to sneeze at but she’s not a bear. It all sounds so corny. Geesh!
I get upset when I see Sarah mistaking giving birth to a child with raising them.
Huge difference, Sarah, between shooting them out and raising them up (as we mid-western prairie women might say).
Sarah talks about “quantity time” being more important to child rearing than “quality time.” How would she know? She doesn’t put in either, which explains why her children seem so lost and angry.
IMO quality time is more important than quantity time.You can spend hours with your child and accomplish nothing or do nothing together or us the time as quality time and accomplish a lot like explaining why ya shouldn’t trash others homes or party till ya drop ect
Ok, I’m still wondering what ever became of the trip to visit Margaret Thatcher? Did she just forget about such an important “invitation?” Come to think of it, Mrs. Palin has never been out of the country, has she? Passport problems with her or her husband, maybe?
Ms Thatcher’s care givers thought better of it and released a statement that a visit would be too disruptive and taxing to her health. I’m thinking they didn’t want to risk Palin lying about the. Visit.
I think it was abandoned after the bad press. The stupid idiot wasn’t aware Thatcher had been suffering dementia until after the ‘invitation’ news was talked about in the media. Of course, the whole situation was bad PR, and made Palin look like she was taking advantage of a vulnerable elderly woman that cannot understand who Palin is. Of course, it really WAS shameless advantage taking but was so obvious even $arah knew she had to abandon it.
The British, obviously, despise her and she wouldn’t be able to handle the pressure there. She knew that. Have you ever seen Thatcher’s daughter in the media? Wow; a terrifying woman with absolutely no humour or kindness and very little patience. She would humiliate Palin publicly had the plans gone ahead. God I would have given anything for that meeting to happen!
What that woman knows about the “real” women in the 60’s could fit on the head of a pin.
And if any Liberal woman worth her salt, winked and flaunted her way to the top like Palin keeps trying to doing, then she should take her bra back and go home.
It is so obvious that she is neither a feminist nor a strong woman, but she is an opportunist and grifter and a thinned skin one at that.
The only thing she has learned in her short years is that to get where you want in a man’s world is not with intelligence but that to do it with short tight skirts, monkey red shoes and a wink.
And with that, woman’s lib takes one step back down the ladder by dumbing down the rise to the top.
Again:That woman is an idiot!!
Of course Sarah would be against bra burning. After all, didn’t she once say if she put on her push-up bra before a meeting, she could get anything she wanted (or something like that)?
Take her bra away, and at 47, she’ll sag just like the rest of us (well, most of us).
Good God…am having a visual of the Saratoga Races “pushup Bra” photo.
I bought one of those push-up bras.
Didn’t help me do push-ups at all! What a ripoff.
I wish I could wax philosophically or even literarily on any of this. But all I want is baking soda in water and a cold compress for my head. Palin’s rantings truly make me physically ill.
AKM, you deserve a huge rest from this drivel.
How many think that SP’s aborted attempt to have a photo opp with Margaret Thatcher, suffering from dementia, solely was driven by a ghostwriter/someone at the publishing house who wanted a photograph of the two of them to stick into this chapter of the book?
I’ll bet SP has no idea who Margaret Thatcher is, what policies she stood for, or what kind of leader she was.
I agree. Just like Bristol’s reaction to Olberman was faked. Who would expect Bristol of the “big middle finger,” to use a word such as “canard.” Palins seem to think everyone else is dumber than they are.
My cousin is apparently a Palinbot. Her facebook page has a video of Bristle and it’s title is “Leave Bristol alone”. She called her a “classy lady”. I’m so glad she’s in AZ. Teh stoopid, it burns!
I live in Phoenix. Want me to TP her house? 🙂 lol
I have friends on facebook that are republicans and some actually do like palin but i still put up my links and some do get read.
I thought Olberman was out of line with the WPITW – he should have stuck to Sarah for that honor, not a kid.
But still, the response was hilarious.
Why don’t they ignore things like this. This is a KO thing. Now, he will be deemed as the mean pervert. I kind of wish that he would have avoided this. I was hoping that she would out class mom.
Very good point. I hadn’t thought about that possibility.
jimzmum – well said! You expressed what I was feeling beautifully! A big virtual hug and smile of appreciation to you!
Also, too – AKM, you are doing splendid work and holding up better than most of us could in your place. Thanks again for trudging through the you-know-what on our behalf.
OMG ! This woman is seriously seeing herself in ‘Little house on the Prairie’, ‘Big Valley’ or ‘Bonanza’ ! Them good days when wom’n were shootin’ fishin’ and huntin’, raisin’ young un’s whilst ploughin’ them fields, holdin’ the fam’ly together !
She is delusional !
I could really see her in those long dresses and such, being helped off a wagon. Sure…
She would be the mean one stealing the gold and a horse heading up to the mountains. Little Joe might have to get the gang to go after her.
Maybe she likes the word (fib)!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgWwNud2H9Y&feature=related
My husband’s grandfather was the banker in The Little Town on the Prairie. (See “The Long Winter”), and I can vouch personally she ain’t no Laura Ingalls Wilder. More like Nelly.
She screws up her nose like Cora Beth Godsey, too.
That she does, Sally!
Laura Ingalls Wilder is buried 30 minutes/miles from my house in the woods.
Apparently she never lived anywhere without running water or indoor plumbing.My parents put in a pump and septic system after all but two of us had left.They could them afford it.Till then that would be in the middle sixties . would not go back to those day even for camping.don’t like the no bathrooms and the ticks back in the seventies.Now I know they have bathrooms ect but back them if ya camped in the wilds ya didn’t.
Was in Wally World yesterday, and just had to stop by the book dept. to check out the book. Like, AKM, I sort of slithered by, and stood off to the side of where it was displayed, too embarassed in case someone I knew saw me! Plenty of books, neatly stacked, didn’t look like they’d been disturbed (or else the stocker was really on the ball). I did notice, however, they were selling for $15.99, $3 more than has been reported here. And we are not in a wealthy part of the country and very conservative. Hmmmmmm
“And we are not in a wealthy part of the country and very conservative.” there you go. raise the price for the people most likely to part with their hard earned cash even if they are less likely to be able to afford it.
Great points! That’s the Republican/Tea Party way!
don’t mess with the free market, dontcha know!
No, disagree politely, that’s the Walmart way. If something is selling briskly, up the price. There is a flag set in the inventory program and the algorithm weighs time on shelf and sales volume.
Also too…
Oh, you have got to see this. Palin got asked a question by a journalist. Watch her reaction!
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/video-cnn-told-leave-sarah-55716
Now, I’m off to read AKM’s Chapter 4.
so the grizzled mama is really a fraidy cat?!
Never mind the pepper spray…just pack questions!
hahahahahahacaw Caw CAW CAW CAW!!!!
My goodness, you could really see her going through the fight or flight stages! Flight almost won and there was no fight in her.
I really, really dislike the hand in the camera stuff. That has to stop. Some jurisdictions might regard that as assault upon the person using the camera. Classy team – could go to work for a lot of third world dictators.
Why does Sarah think the press should treat her “nice?” Doesn’t she wear her big girl panties when out in public?
She got up to run away so fast that it shows how it’s become second nature for her. And those bots that were in line waiting to shake her hand got to see her sign her name and hand the book off while she got ready to split. I hope they are wholly disappointed in her disregard for them.
What a maroon.
immoral minority has the video up along with some funny commentary from gryphen and fans. the way she points at the camera at the ends reminds me of the wicked witch of the west summoning her posse os monkeys. also on immoral minority, you can see a post about an individual who follows palin to all her book-signings and dresses as the superhero “palinman”. it must be seen to be believed.
What was that ugly red thing she was wearing?
At the end of the video, the reporter apologizes to Palin. What the …? We’ve gone from Woodward and Bernstein-type investigative reporting to namby-pamby journalists apologizing to a two-bit fake politician who refuses to answer basic questions.
Okay… I never thought I’d find myself defending Scarah, but having worked in the book biz from several angles (ran a bookstore, arranged signings, written a book and done a signing, have many author friends with booksigning horror stories), I have to say that I find it in extremely bad taste (to say nothing of disrupting and annoying for both author and the person to whom she is speaking at that moment) for reporters to interrupt with a question yelled in from the side. I thought her response (“Am I doing interviews?”) was appropriate to the situation.
I’m not disagreeing with the fact that she’s shown herself in the past to be a ‘fraidy cat’ with a need to control situations and steer them to her advantage. It’s just that in this particular situation I can understand why she’d be annoyed and act the way she did.
OK, I’m confused, where does this momma grizzly start acting like one? Some one asks a question and she gets up to bolt out of the door? All bark and no bite. What a loser.
@Thisby–Well-said AND lived…..Thank you! We ladies have double the load, and half the pay! I think of historic roles of women and the tasks they had to do, that we now do with ease. The chore of laundry, for instance…. I have so much respect and admiration for people who have lived and took on enormous challenges of simply doing the day-to-day tasks of living.!
OMG….who would do such a thing? 🙂
“Two days before Sarah Palin’s book-signing tonight in Carmel, copies of her newest book were defaced by someone in the Borders bookstore in the passenger terminal at Indianapolis International Airport.
According to a report from the airport police, four copies of Palin’s newest book “America by Heart” were damaged by writing on the covers, probably the work of a passenger boarding a flight.”
http://www.indystar.com/article/20101202/NEWS/101202019/Palin-books-defaced-at-Borders-at-Indianapolis-International-Airport?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Communities
Oh, darn. Isn’t that just so awful. Normally I do not support anyone vandalizing anything, but, oh, darn, how can someone deface a book so full of . . . oh, wait, same thing happened to a Beck book? Oh, darn, golly gee, too bad. Palin and Beck should be chastised for defacing paper with their crude and cruel thoughts.
Thanks for the link, Irishgirl. I should be ashamed of grinning as I read that, but I find that I am not ashamed one little bit. Bad, bad girl I know. I love me my stash of books (hundreds and hundreds of ’em), but not one little regret that Palin’s book was defaced. She has damaged so much more.
I felt bad about grinning too, just for a split second.
Would placing stickers inside the front cover be defacing them? I’m thinking along the lines of “WARNING: This book can turn your brains to mush!”…and a trip to Costco.
Love the concept. Wish I had bought ink for my printer!
Just use bookmarks printed with that, then you won’t be “defacing” them.
I think it would be considered defacing, but a small printed piece of paper with the same message wouldn’t. In fact, use colored card stock and make it look like a bookmark!
I believe I read an article that said there were “marks on the cover” of the book. I’m thinking there were little moustaches drawn on that mug. hehehehe.. I wish it was I that did it.
Wouldn’t some argue that was improving it?
’tis a shame. i can think of much better uses for that paper. too bad it would back up my toilette.
I was nowhere near Indianapolis! That was somebody who looked like me!
Heehee
We’ll vouch for you, slipstream. We all know you were right here at The Mudflats, and will testify under oath, should that become necessary.
If ya read the comments they blame the libs don’t they realize that a lot of republicans do not like her either and especially after she dissed Reagan and Barbara Bush.Besides the tapes did not show the person doing anything so where is the proof
“Proof? Proof? We don’t need no stinkin’ proof !” …or facts either !!
Oy, vey.
*muttering* Grizzled mama with gristle for brains…not fit to tie Gloria Steinem’s shoes…naughty monkey wearin’ piggy-pitbull with lipstick…who fed the gremlin after midnight?! …family values?!…what a tangled web….
*reaching for the aspirin and passing the pepper spray*
TGIF…I need a drink and it’s just 6 of the morning here.
*deep cleansing breath* *again* *again* sigh
Will settle for a hot shower followed by an Indian River ruby red grapefruit (I support my school’s baseball team fundraiser). Then off to the library to talk to dozens, even hundreds, of teenagers who make more sense than whatzername EVER will!
Later, sweet taters. 🙂
Geez, CrowWoman – you know how to hurt a gal – Indian River Red Grapefruit! One more reason to love December!
We will have a box next week. We support our HS Band. Do love those grapefruit.
Loved the ” . . . Grizzled mama with gristle for brains…not fit to tie Gloria Steinem’s shoes…”
Thanks thatcrowwoman for a the smile and giggle.
“naughty monkey wearin’ piggy-pitbull with lipstick…who fed the gremlin after midnight?!”
lol! i love gremlin references!
I love those Indian River Ruby Reds. Enjoy for me too.
Eeahrgle! That is the sound of my poor brain trying to keep most of me from tossing my computer across the study! Silly, nasty, ignorant, women make me crazy. It is only because of the movement in the 1960’s and 1970’s that she could even attain the Office of Governor, even though she chose not to do her job.
And, also too. What about women not being allowed to attend military academies? Does she even know the history?
What about salary inequity? What about the piddly little things like different prices for dry-cleaning women’s suits versus men’s?
In 2008, this “left wing feminist” didn’t know what to make of a woman who aspired to the second-highest office in our country, yet came off as a buffoon, who wanted us to believe her intelligent and serious, yet dressed inappropriately (and I know that is snarky, but business attire is a narrow line that must not be crossed in this case).
Mrs. Palin needs to look at the past, to those women who worked so very hard to give her the chance to look like the Queen of All Morons. Without those women, she’d never even be considered as a sports reporter, let alone V.P.
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Have a jelly donut and cup o tea?
I was going to post a soapbox worthy reply to all of this but decided I would eat a jelly doughnut and sip some tea instead.
I was thinking the same thing. How the World Turns with Palin! Or Another Palin. Days all of all the Palin’s…
Dang! No doughnuts! Think I will go take a shower to wash the slime off and then have a toasted bagel with peanut butter, and also too tea
Palin Days (of our lives)
I accept gratefully. L’Shalom, thatcrowwoman.
What about you couldn’t buy property without the co-signature of some MAN?
That’s my situation EXACTLY. I married in the early 70s and was plenty pea-ohed that my husband had to sign off on any of my own financial matters. But that was the reality back in the day, before REAL women (and some of our men, also and too), NOT THE PLASTICIZED CARIBOU BARBIES of the world, got the nation’s laws changed to give somewhat equal protection to both men AND women.
That nitwit quitter woman, spouting off her “bear” garbage, twists everything she says into complete and utter idiocy. IF HER LIPS ARE MOVIN’, THE WITCH IS LYING.
Funniest comment ever…
Thanks for the 2012 bumpersticker!!!!
IF HER LIPS ARE MOVIN’, THE WITCH IS LYING.
LOL!
I’ll sport that one! Great idea!
Forget property. You couldn’t even buy a car without a man’s signature.
As I recall, having spent the bulk of my mid teenage years in the early 1970’s, WE WERE the trailblazing generation, reaping the benefits of what the bra-burners of the 1960’s had sown.
We got to wear PANTS to school… joined mixed-gender soccer teams… actively pointed out the “in-equalities” in existing systems of work / school life… (coffee: you want ME to get that for YOU…?) and were finally being promoted into important management positions. It was OK to be a working “super-mom,” trying to do it all (AND being exhausting – all at the same time!).
We were also “Put in our Place” regularly and at every turn by the Republican Party, and being told that true, loving mama’s belonged at home with their children… and shouldn’t work unless they “had” to… they wanted everything to return to “normal…” – just like the 1950’s.
In fact, Rush called those early pioneers of the 60’s and 70’s the beginnings of the “Femi-nazi’s…”. How dare we think for ourselves, have the temerity to seek a job outside the home AND earn a decent income? We were able to bring home the bacon AND cook and serve it too! Why? CAUSE I AM WOMAN! Hear me roar, in numbers too big to ignore!
– KatieAnnieOakley
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i still remember the first time i got to go to school without wearing a dress or a skirt. i was a sophomore in high school – and i never wore a dress to school again. lol
i still think high heels are just a plot against women.
I was in high school and graduated in ’61. Had to walk 1/2 mile to the school bus stop, a cold wind coming down two different hill with me freezing with the wind up my dress/skirt. And my younger bragging “Don’t know why you’re complaining about, My legs are Warm!”
Lucky for me, my brother improved with age…LOL
meant to put “younger brother” in the above comment. My brain goes faster than my typing..
Me too, Kathy. I had to walk a couple miles (Debarr Rd to almost Ship Creek in Anchorage). Not only were my legs freezing, (and we didn’t have long coats, just parkas) but I’d get red “burns” on my legs where the tops of the boots rubbed.
Once I had high heels and nylons on during the winter while waiting for a bus in the city for a job interview and the bus splashed mush on my legs and it froze to my legs ened up going into a bathroom and taking the nylons off.Talk about cold
I graduated in 62 so know just where you are coming from.I come from a large family and Mom did stay at home till most of us were gone than it was babysitting ect..I can still remember the first time I was able to were Capri’s in public
I was in high school when they finally switched to co-ed PE classes. The female PE teachers took it in stride (naturally!) but it was VERY rough on the male PE teachers who had no earthly clue what to do with us girlies!
Want to see a big, burly football coach blanch right down to the roots of his hair? Just hint that it was ‘that time of the month’ and they looked as if you had just announced that you had a whopping case of the plague!
I will freely admit, as someone who had a rabid dislike of PE, that I happily took advantage of the situation on more than one occasion! 😉
KatieAnnieOakley, I think I am just a little bit older than you, but your rendition of Helen Reddy has touched my heart! I am so old that I never got to wear pants to school except when the temperature was below zero AND there was blowing snow. (This was in Montana. Snow days? Never heard of ’em.) I am so old that I never got to play basketball by men’s rules… women’s rules were for half-court basketball and we never, ever got to play competitively with anyone. I am so old that I learned to type on a manual typewriter and then was expected to take a typing test for every job interview I ever had up until I was ten years past college.
I was in high school in the late 60s, and a young wife and mother in the early 1970s. In fact, I was a young working mother because my husband was active Air Force during Vietnam and we couldn’t live on his salary, so I had to put my toddler in the base nursery and go to work. In my 20s, I was working my tutu off to supplement our military pay, take care of my son, and do all the housework that was required of wives. I remember telling people that my husband and I shared the housework: I did all of the shopping, cooking, cleaning, dusting, vacuuming, and laundry — and HE put all the records back in their jackets. (Shout-out to any mudpuppy who is old enough to remember that!) That’s when I became a feminist. The feminazi part came later, after the divorce.
The other thing I remember about the 1970s was Phyllis Schlafly, ultra-right-wing wackjob and forerunner of Sarah P, touring the country, running for office on the platform of defeating the Equal Rights Amendment and keeping women at home, out of the workforce, and particularly out of public life. Except for her, of course. IOKIYAR.
And my working life at that time? If only the young women of today could really understand what it was like. Of course, equal pay was a fantasy. Professional women serving coffee to professional men was a reality, and an everyday occurrence. Professional women with seniority training young men who would ultimately be promoted into positions where they would supervise the very women who trained them was also an everyday occurence. And sexual harassment? Fuhgeddaboudit! If you’re over 55 or so and ever had to put up with some leering, drooling, slobbering would-be playboy at work, and do it with a smile, at peril of losing your job, raise your hand! I swear to goodness, had I played my cards right, I could have slept my way to a lot better life than I actually enjoyed way back then.
And this is why Sarah pisses me off so totally. Not only does she have no clue, but she actively puts down the women who paved the way for the likes of her. She’s an idiot, a “mean girl,” and a vicious divider who isn’t content just to divide right from left, but also intends to divide old from young, educated from less-educated, well-to-do from not-so-well-to-do, white from everybody else, and so on and so on, blah blah blah. She makes me sick.
The first time AKM published the cover of the book, I had to look at it three times. The “A” over Sarah’s right eyebrow (left side of the cover) looks like a devil horn, and the “I” seems to complete the picture. But the “A” in particular accentuates her pointy eyebrow, and the effect is positively satanic. If I were a believer in such nonsense, I would say we were seeing the antichrist (I don’t believe in such stuff, though). But once you see the devil in that shot, it’s damn hard to un-see it.
Wonderfully stated. I am old enough to remember. Young women in an office no matter the status had to be in heels and skirt (coordinated outfit). When pants were allowed, it had to be a coordinated pants-suit (shout out to Hillary Clinton).
Apparently Sarah’s mom, as school secretary, felt her place, stayed in her place and let the creepy dad make all the decisions for the family. Sarah got a break for special favors to somebody in authority and it seems that the rest of us, men and women will pay for the price for this dystopian Heath/Palin crew.
I am with ya there Thisby I was married in the early sixties and lasted for 19 years.He was not a good provider and i have had to always work to provide for the family plus do all the other things ya mentioned.The only thing he did do was watch our children while I worked when he wasn’t otherwise I did it all myself.Guess thats not enought for the fake fraud palin
Thisby,
I do remember much of what you said… I am now 53… it was a strange time, and a great time to be a woman. I grew up in So Calif, and stayed there until I was 21 and moved to Seattle… but I saw what you saw – and I rebelled mightily against it.
I have always been a coffee fanatic; once, when I got up and got myself some coffee during a (bank) staff meeting, I offered refills to everyone – it’s called “Manners.” The Bank Manager thought that made me The Coffee Girl, and “expected” me to fetch him coffee. And I told him what I said above: “You want ME to get that for YOU?” He laughed – I laughed – and I went back to my job… and he respected me the rest of the time I was there. Yeah, it was pretty cheeky for a 19 year old to say to her boss, but I’ve never been a follower. At another branch of that bank, we tellers had to train a former assistant manager at Mickey D’s for his job in MANAGEMENT. I up and quit and told them WHY a month later. They offered to put me into the loan department. I said no, I’m moving to Seattle.
1975 – I went to buy a car… they wanted a co-signer… I told them “I don’t need one” I’m fully qualified on my own… and got that car on my own and drove off. I don’t think they even ran a credit report initially, it was a simply a habit for them to require one from females.
When I went to work in a suburb of Seattle, it was like walking into the early 1970’s: skirts, heels, no pants /suit, simple jewelry… it was maddening.
Then I learned to Use My Feminine Charms… and initially felt like a fraud… until I was able to prove I was up for any task given to me. “You’re gonna make it after all…”.
Six years ago, when we were moving to Chicago from LA (We’ve lived all over the country, including Alaska), I went to buy a four-wheel drive car. The older salesman at the dealership directed all the questions and answers to my husband… who would point to me and say “ask her – it’s her car.” We played this little game over and over with the guy… and then, it came time to sit down and make the deal… my husband and daughter headed to the car we arrived in, and he said to my husband “Sir! I can make give you my best offer…” and once again, my husband said to him: “Tell her – it’s her car!”…. he then said to my husband through the rolled down window: “but we need you here to make the deal” – and I spoke up from behind him “No you don’t…”
I then proceeded to make the deal with this man that clearly, obviously and with great distaste had to deal with “The Little Woman” of our household to sell this car. I made the rest of his day a merry hell. I took hours and hours of his time… I had such fun with him! And by 5:30PM (They closed at 5:00) I drove off in my shiny new car… I was his only client since they opened at 11:00AM – delicious!
lower48 – a similar event happened to me, but it involved a table saw. I had researched and knew what I wanted. Went to the big, national tool store and proceeded to tell a clerk what I wanted. He suggested I have my husband come in and he would help him find the right table saw. I blew my top and informed him that my husband had never even been able to find a hammer that fit his hand and if he wanted to make a sale he had better wake up a realize that WOMEN had just as many or more capabilities than men. Of course, I delivered my sermon full volume, deliberately. To my surprise I got a rousing round of applause and a red faced clerk who wrote the sales slip with a very shaky hand!
Another women who was an ultra-right wack job in the 60-70’s was Marabel Morgan. She advised women to submit to their husbands, and after keeping the household during the day, to greet their husbands at the door wrapped in Saran Wrap. She didn’t mention what the women should do with the children inorder for them not to see an eyefull. Even back then she was concidered a nut job.
I AM WOMAN !! and I’ve been a woman, curiously, all my life.
“It is only because of the movement in the 1960′s and 1970′s that she could even attain the Office of Governor, even though she chose not to do her job.”
<> jimzmum, you summarized this perfectly.
<> AKM, you have amazing stamina. Thank you for braving this ordeal and surviving to share the tale.
Sorry, those had applause and ovations … and offerings of e-chocolates. I guess my computer gobbled them up. 🙂